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Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 400000km

Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by trel162, Oct 29, 2009.

  1. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 380000ish km - big plans

    it costs prob 60 brand new here each for those tires
     
  2. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000 km - Rust Repair

    Alright i'll look around further for cheaper tyres thanks.

    Finally taking care of some rust - sanded it, wax n grease remover, rust converter, water, metho, Max Bond Metal Grip for gaps, sand n paint tomorrow!

    LHS Roof
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    LHS Windscreen
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    Centre Windscreen has no rust
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    RHS Windscreen
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    broke a few clips, need 3 spares.
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  3. CelicaSteve

    CelicaSteve Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    Those clips are a pain to get back in. They go right under the windscreen, think the whole screen has to come out to do a proper job. If you can get some new clips, you'd probably have to use some of that black sticky stuff the windscreen repairers use to stick those clips in.
     
  4. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    Shoulda told me about those clips, parcel went yesterday. :aargh

    I think the clips and their mounts are the cause of most of the rust around the screen
    I'm moving to ST182 rubber in future, neater and lets the water out.
    The clips work by anchoring against tabs glued to the body, once the tabs are worn or gone the
    clips don't work and you have to start gluing them down which makes matters worse.

    I'm noticing similar problems with the TEMS roof, next step is to remove the liner and treat the inside
    with spray-on rust killer.(a brush won't cut it)

    I appreciate your level of commitment and will assist in any way I can, let me know what colour
    clips you need

    Car is coming along nicely
     
  5. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    almost 400k!

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    gotta beat this one! :D
     
  6. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    very nice, for a while i've been at the point where selling it will get me a car with more problems that i dont know about. Ive made these problems for myself and that makes it worth the effort to fix it up. This Celica will go as far as it possibly can, I hope to be driving it daily in 5 years time.

    Just got home from an awesome week in Cairns, to find new front spoiler side pieces from Stig, I will do a lot in the coming weeks!

    The car has LOST NO OIL after sitting for a week. This is good and bad. It's not leaking oil but burning it.

    Time to save some rebuild moneys
     
  7. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - front end noises

    for easy reference -

    I've got a couple of noises in the front end that have just returned.
    First thing is to check n tighten all the bolts I haven't checked for months.

    My steering lock doesn't work - replaced the column and it will only lock when the wheels are in the air or very rarely on the ground. With the car also wandering I guess the rack a big problem.

    Front left driveshaft clunks in the gearbox on takeoff / reverse and the front right wheel is rubbing on something chronically when i turn hard left and the car leans over.

    I've replaced all but the box, steering rack/bushes n endlinks already.
     
  8. Rick89GTS

    Rick89GTS Well-Known Member Moderator Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    I think it was Sean (or someone in UK or Ireland) who replaced the 162/165 windshield trim with a strip of rubber also.
    I haven't found anything suitable yet...
     
  9. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    I got the idea from Sherv - http://st162.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=5684&start=20
    Still not sure what rubber he used but the 182 looks similar

    The 162 screen is actually very clever, those sides trap water and channel it to the top corners
    where it then runs down (inside) the trims.
    With the 182 type rubber all water gets blown off the sides and if the windows are open it gets
    sucked into the cab, I'm learning to keep the windows closed in the rain.

    The clips vibrate over the years and wear down the paint, once that happens the clips do a good
    job of rusting into the bodywork. There's supposed to be small sticky strips under them to act
    as dampers and keep the clips in place.
    Not many cars still have the strips so I doubt anyone has seen what I'm talking about

    Trel, found some more clips and spoiler clips for you
    The steering lock is in the column and has nothing to do with the rack.
    Undo the rack joint and see if you haven't got the steering shaft updide down
    (It should line up with the lock near dead ahead)

    The noises I'd suspect the inner CV's 1st, check they're in firmly then check the CV's themselves.
    The LHS one needs to clip in properly - I've seen a few running that weren't
     
  10. Rick89GTS

    Rick89GTS Well-Known Member Moderator Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Rust Repair

    ^You are correct, it was Sherv/CJN. I must have misremembered it.

    ST18x windscreen rubber (Stig's car): [...you got to remove the screen and glue it to the edges before fitting....]
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  11. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Clips n Stuff

    Stig, I need 5 green clips, most got broken.
    Does the top strip have 3 or 4 blue clips? All I can find are 3 broken ones so need all replaced.

    The newer screen surround looks great, I want to avoid taking the screen out so ill see how it goes with the old one for now, check it again in a couple months.

    Do you mean the rack joint in the cabin going through the firewall? The lock will engage rarely, would work at all if upside down?

    Getting cotter pins today so I can check the axle nuts, then gotta refill my jack and do the balljoints.

    I'm sure the left cv was locked in place when installed, will check again. I find it hard to put force on it there isn't much of a flange to hit with a hammer.

    It's lost a bit of oil after driving around so i guess its burning/leaking under pressure. Valve cover seals and dizzy seals should fix that I hope.

    Got to do the RHS roof edge, there's a bit of surface rust, then primer it all. The inside roof, boot lid and tailgate are next. Then inside the fenders, haven't looked in there before.
     
  12. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - Spoiler Clips

    I'm not sure what clips I need,

    Here is what I have
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    Here is what i have left over
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  13. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    i just mixed and matched until they all fit lol!

    i know you have the middle part definitely correct though! just not sure on the left overs.
     
  14. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    guys take my advice what you's trying to do there ain't right that rust will just come back after 6 months go to a
    w/screen fitment shop and have the glass removed and then clean all rust out by sanding or grinding it out until clean metal
    then use rust proof bonding it don't matter what type as long it protect rust from coming back then you can fill it up with body
    filler and shape it up then prime it and paint it after all that take the car back to w/sreen shop and have it fiited don't worry
    about clips out they can do for you is fill it up with silicon and press the beading on to that so it will be solid no more water
    under those beads or rust.
     
  15. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    the spoiler parts are all right they just bolt on (front lip )
     
  16. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    i am on my way out now will be back soon and give some more advice
     
  17. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    Where are the original clips?
    They are just to hold the spoiler to the bumper, you could even use bolts, nuts & washers
    There's also supposed to be deflectors attached to the spoiler bottom - helps
    strengthen it and deflect the air to the radiator

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    Fernando is right, you cant put silicone, paint or filler on metal without converting the rust 1st,
    but siliconing the trim to the windshield is a major no-no as it traps water under the trim and makes
    things worse.
    The ST16x is unique in the windscreen trim, can't think of another car that uses the same system
     
  18. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    i know what you're getting at fernando, but i sanded and converted the rust spots twice in 48 hrs now it's got Maxbond Metal Grip which is waterproof, flexible and is sealing everything up. I will keen an eye on it tho.

    I'm missing all the original clips, the old spoiler came off on the freeway and the side bits were chucked accidently.

    I used to have the bit underneath that sent air to the gearbox, no idea where it went

    I haven't tried to test fit it yet, will see how it looks tomorrow
     
  19. fernandocelica

    fernandocelica Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km

    kevin I Pm ,d you did you receive the massage or is my Pm not working? The silicon I am talking about is to seal the glass level with the top of the glass so no water get's in the bottom again it will do the same job as the rubber job you got on the st 185 no need of clips any more one solid bead affect no more aids (rust) I know that those beads where made to create a sort of a water channel but all the older cars where like that now they have realized there problems rust and changed to mainly rubber with a solid sealent thanks guys only trying to help had plenty of those before in my life and trel162 the spoilers don't worry to much Kevin is right you can bolt them with bolts and nuts those covers underneath are mainly protector covers against stones etc.
     
  20. trel162

    trel162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: Andrews 87 SX 3S-GE 386000km - NEW SPOILER HOORAY

    Just redone the windscreen in a couple little spots - its sat bare metal while i was away, came out to find ice all over the car 2 mornings ago!

    New front spoiler! First time in 6 years! Big thanks to Stig for the sides :thumbsup:
    Really happy with it, fits perfect, I found the car still had most of the tabs hanging there!
    Down the track will sand n paint it, with my spare bumper, as mine is slightly broken.
    Car looks nice n low now, with Lovells 1st drop springs - think theyre about 1.5 in drop
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    Made the dent/scratch on the RHS look much better - sanded it with 240 to make it white again, gonna look at paintless dent removal - I've heard of drilling it and pulling the screws out at once but don't have a drill.
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    Need to sort out this evil on the rear LHS.
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