seank90, Back to cleaning

Cool, from what I can make out they are supposed to be glued in with d/sided tape.
Without the tape they fly out at speed and using silicone etc to glue them down causes the water to dam up inside the trims.
I'm able to remove them by pushing the trim towards the glass and twisting the trim over the glass

Wait till you try the rears, they are a pita and the lower clips all break. The screws are all rusted beyond use so I'm trying to find a way to put it back together

 

d sided tape??? Don't think so stig..

The clips are supposed to be pushed in the windowsealer while still being soft. When it hardens the clips should be stuck in the hardened sealer. That is the idea behind it.

 

Sorry Kevin got to agree with lone wolf on the way to replace the bead's he is right.Sean you are a lucky guy to have removed them without any one to break but the rear one's like Kevin said they are more of challenge.

 

According to BGB - (BO-17/40)
Windscreen sealant is left to set, excess is trimmed off.
That leaves a hard straight edge on the side of the glass
The clips you show are supposed to clip into white plastic "fasteners" on the body which are glued to the body, it's those fasteners I'm talking about

Here I've highlighted some that were still intact


As I said before any attempt to glue the clips to the screen or body will result in water pooling and major rust forming.
This is typical of a car where the trims were glued down, the water simply can't get out! and it already needs to be repaired again.


Even with the stock fasteners I find the clips weak and prone to rusting where they touch the body (d/sided tape to prevent chafing?) which is why I'm looking at other rubbers.
The system is unique in that screen water is supposed to go into the (chromed) trims at the top corners and run down inside to the fenders.
It was abandoned as a bad idea and never seen again on any Toyota

With a ST182/AE101 rubber etc you get a lot more water coming into the windows at speed.
The benefit is no rust underneath and better aerodynamics
Problem with these is they MUST be glued to the screen BEFORE the screen is glued to the body or they won't work
This was my 1st attempt without removing the screen = fail


A problem with the stock setup is that water collects in front of the mirror (due to the "U" shape and causes a huge hole.
It also usually rusts under the fasteners 1st and they fall off, probably why you guys don't know about them?


The hole you see above was caused by one of the yellow clips chafing thru the metal and I'm finding the same problems with the rear windows as well

Here you can see the filler where someone has attempted a repair, the fixings were removed and the clips glued back in -
it caused major rust and the clips chafed thru the metal - once again

 

wow...I guess mine were taken off and thrown away and the windscreen was just glued in and they pushed the clips in the glue.

 

That is what I'm finding and the results are here for you to see.
Like I said the system is unique and can't be addressed like on a normal car

 

After owning 5 cars and stripping countless others I spent a LOT of time looking at the problem.
There was a thread for this but.....

What's happened to Toyodiy.com? I was hoping to find a p/n for those fastners

 

I've left my windscreen trim off for a year now. The rust i killed is back but not as bad, so that's due for another round.

The only problem driving without trims is, when the wipers are on, the water beads in the top middle of the drivers window and falls on the power window switches.

Stig sent me a set of good windscreen trims, but I don't want to waste them with another bad rust kill job.

 

good to see you're still making progress !! Hope you get it on the road again this year.

 

Hi Sean, back on the road is good enough!Details come later... Good job by the way,proper gen4 'getting stuck in'...like it

 

Hell yeah,when i got mine back on the road first time it didnt matter too much what was missing or what it looked like,i was back in a gen4

 

Hi sean.
i'm sorry i have never replied to this thread.
i have looked over a few times and read most of it.
but never quite new what i could say.
but i would like to say that this is a nice car and the amount of work you have put into it is dedication.
if i had some of the skills with a welder and windscreen removal and the time to strip my car down and go throught it for anything out of the ordinary i would use this thread as a ways to see what to look for.

it has plenty of pics and closeups and just love how much time you have spent on the car.
sorry to see the rust in and around your windscreen though it makes me scared to check mine there as i had to fix up some of the goo because it was leaking at one stage.

one question i wanted to ask you was about the little water jets you have on the front of the car.
is there any chance you could take a few pics from start to finish of the factory setup for it as i wouldn't mind seeing if i can make something up on mine for it.

anyways mate nice car and good luck with everything and keep up the good work.