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ST162-7254182 "Dirty Deeds" Edited

Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by ST165-2765, Sep 28, 2009.

  1. kevinkyang

    kevinkyang Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    seems like everything is coming together pretty fast. :D cant wait for the next update
     
  2. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    your dedication continues to astonish me as if the alltrac wasnt wnough lol.
    keep it up man
     
  3. 86CelicaGTS

    86CelicaGTS Well-Known Member

  4. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

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  5. Klue

    Klue Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    clutch line will work fine :p

    can you do me a big favor and take some detailed measurements of those bushings. I have a set but i cant find them and i want to have some made.

    thanks

    btw i got the parts you sent me, perfect just as you promised.
     
  6. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    WARNING
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    First thing to do is to make a pattern so when I cut out the fender I have an idea of
    the shape to make the new one.
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    I measured key points from the edge of the paper to the back pillar for the drivers door
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    I made a pattern for the rear quarter panel by taping a piece of paper on the fender and
    then running my dirty dirty dirty fingers along the edges. I also marked with pen any bends
    or curve ends.
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    Made the pattern more permenant with a pen
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    Also made profiles of the back half of the rear fender
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    And the front half of the rear fender and I also end up with 1 piece that is a profile of both
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    Then I made cuts in the rocker panel
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    I put pieces of cardboard in the rocker panel cuts so I could get profiles at various locations
    along the rocker panel
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    Then I started to cut out various rusty bits, this is a rough cut of the rear quarter panel
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    This is just a preliminary cut to see whats inside and the best way to repair it. Bad news is
    the total length of the cut I was going through both bondo & metal. Theirs a good 1/16 to
    1/8 inch of bondo all over the fender. I make straight cuts because its easiest for me to make
    straight cuts in new metal. Its quite the hack job but I told you it was going to get ugly.
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    Now that I got the fender and rear quarter cut out I'll start with the rocker repairs while I
    think about the best way to repair the rear fender and strut tower and quarter panel. The
    main condition for repairs is to get back to good solid metal everywhere and make sure
    that the interior space is totally sealed.
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    I use 14 gauge sheet metal when I repair rocker panels so although I have a 36" sheet
    metal bender at 14 guage a piece about 12" long is the max I can bend.
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    A new piece made to fit. I extended the bottom lip to 1". The original lip was 1/2". So
    this should have the visual effect of lowering the body 1/2".
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    From there I worked backwards to the front of the rear fender making 2 more pieces.
    Now I can weld in these 2 last pieces. Remove the first piece I bent and cut out another
    12" section working towards the front fender. When I have that piece cut out I'll weld in
    the first piece I cut and make a new piece for the new 12" cut out........ until I get to
    the front of the rocker panel, then I'll sandblast inside and then work my way back with
    the exterior pieces. I.m not planning on putting those rocker panel covers back on that
    came with the GTS so I'll curve these panels as best as I can with the metal bender.
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    Thats where I stopped for tonight. I also removed all of the old unused gas and brake
    lines that some previous owner had replaced but had also left the old crap.
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    And I took off the rear bumper cause I knew it had issues when I pulled this pile of crap
    out of it.
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    The GOOD
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    The BAD
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    The UGLY ....thats the foam pad thats behind the metal bumper. The top half
    of the metal bumper has totally rusted away in the center......
    Thats just nasty
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  7. Mattcr2d2

    Mattcr2d2 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    Dude that rust is so bad!
    good thing your starting to get on top of it, good luck man shes looking good tho :D
     
  8. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    im loving all this work!!! :D
     
  9. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    I got most of the inside of the rocker panel done yesterday. Ran out of gas
    for the mig welder so I wasted a couple of hours getting it refilled.
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    Thats as far as I'm going to cut the rocker, the rest is still in good shape. So
    a couple more pieces and I'll probably do the drivers side floor next. Before I
    do the outside covers for the rocker panel I want to sandblast everything first
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  10. kevinkyang

    kevinkyang Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    that is looking awesome! wish i could weld
     
  11. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    I have decided to paint the car black so instead of doing auxiliary pieces in red I'm going
    to do them in an aluminum paint. So no work on the rockers today just a pile of painting
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  12. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    would it not be easier to weld the whole bottom instead of doing small little bits and pieces?
     
  13. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    Uh, you have some serious work ahead :S I'm looking forward for your progress.

    Clutch line:
    It's been said that the ST165 hose will fit the ST162. The Speed-source page sais that the ST185 and ST165 are the same as well, and I found some ebay items that fits all T18s. So, if we can rely on all this info, we can say that all the T16 and T18 clutch hoses are interchangeable :)
    The one I found on ebay (much cheaper as on speed-source):
    150379656945
     
  14. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    Yes it would be easier but I'm useing 14 guage steel for frame and floor repairs and its 0.0747" thick.
    It would be comparable to the thickness of a Canadian or American dime. Very hard to bend. So about
    a 12" length is the maximum I can bend with my sheet metal bender. I think most cars today are useing
    20-22 guage sheet metal for body panels and 22 guage is 0.0299 that can be bent a lot easier so for the
    outer side of the new rocker panel I may make it in bigger sections but I'm still limited to 36" thats the
    biggest piece my sheet metal bender can fit.

    I could drag my oxy/acetalyne setup down to the sheet metal bender to heat the 14 guage up along the seam
    I want to bend and then I could do it in larger pieces but I normally get smaller pieces of metal from Renfrew
    Steel they let me go through their pile of cut up pieces left over from bigger projects so I normally grab pieces
    1' to 2' long & 1' to 2' wide. It makes it easier for me to store and handle the steel.
     
  15. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    thats a good answer!! :) ya i know what you mean by the steel...my father was a welder...so i can get all the sheet metal i need from his workplace! which is cool! thicker will last longer in the long run anyway so do it once and do it right!!! ;) especially were your goin to be jacking up the car thicker would be soo much better!! :D
     
  16. LionTR

    LionTR Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    //off

    Forget it, T18 hose is shorter.
     
  17. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    Well I decided to start on the fender today so I put the pattern back over the
    fender so I could trace the cut mark. Then I divided the pattern into smaller
    bits and used printer paper to make individual patterns and transfered them to
    strips of metal I had cut. I cut strips of metal instead of marking everything out
    on a bigger piece of steel cause it makes it easier for me to cut the parts out.
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    Body filler all over this panel. Pretty much right from the back of the door all the way
    to the rear bumper. In some cases the filler is 1/4" thick. Unfortuneatly not the way to
    do bodywork but thats what I'm stuck with.
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    I cut the curved bits out first with a jig saw and then I can do the straight cuts
    on my metal shear.
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    I was considering going wide body and flaring the rear fenders out an inch or two but
    I would have had to modify this part of the rear strut tower and its about all thats left
    of the strut tower that is actually in good shape.
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    In order to repair the inner fender I decided to shape & fit the outer fender pieces first
    so I started with what I thought was the hardest piece.
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    Even this piece of metal did not require very much bending.
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    Now that I have the outer fender shaped I can make the inner fender. First I mark the
    cut on the inside on a piece of cardboard and cut that shape out.
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    Then I put the outer piece back in place and trace out the outer edge and cut out
    the pattern
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    Transfered to metal and cut out and bent up
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    Clamped to the outer piece ready to be spot welded in place
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    From the inside. I don't mind if theirs a small gap, with the mig welder you can easilly fill
    small holes or gaps between panels.
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  18. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    Just what I didn't want and the main reason I was waiting to sand blast the vehicle outside
    was to avoid a pile of dust but I had to get rid of enough body filler to give me a weldable
    seam.
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    The front of the fender cleaned up all the way to the back of the door
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    Back to the replacement metal. Heres a view of the inner and outer fender pieces as they fit
    together
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    The first inner fender piece has been tack welded in place.
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    Since the first inner fender piece has been tack welded in place I can now clamp the outer
    piece to it.
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    A second inner fender piece has been cut and tack welded in place. I could now weld the outer
    piece in place but I'm going to do the whole inner fender first and probably sandblast
    everything before I weld the outer pieces on.
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    Heres a good example of how well a mig welder can fill gaps. I put a spot weld in to hold the 2
    pieces in place and had to fill a gap of about 1/8"
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  19. kevinkyang

    kevinkyang Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    nice work. coming along nicely.
     
  20. Mattcr2d2

    Mattcr2d2 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Re: ST162-7254182

    very detailed and looking good :)
     

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