ScioN FT-86 !

:mrgreen

 

^ i really liked this first version too.

 

LATEST INFO ON THE FT-86!! From Nardi330 @ http://www.ft86club.com

Scans from a training manual.

Power/weight:
HP: 147kw (200ps) / 200hp @7000rpm
Torque: 205nm (151 lb/ft) @ 6600rpm
Weight: 2662 lbs (1210kg) for base manual (~ 2580 lbs dry weight) / 2706 pounds for higher trim manual

Columns:
First 2 column are for "small FR sport", column 1 is a higher spec model, column 2 is a lower spec model. 3rd column is Mx5/Miata, 4th is RX8 and last is CRZ. It's a comparison chart.

Top Section:
The top section is the dimension in mm, length width height wheelbase, ground clearance then number of seats. Next is weight.
Top spec manual is 1230kg (2706 lbs), auto is 1250kg (2756 lbs).
Low spec manual is 1210kg (2662 lbs), auto is 1230kg (2706 lbs).
Then its turning radius.
High spec rides on 17" wheels and low spec on 16".

Second Section:
This section is engine.
Boxer 4 DOHC, 1998cc - Premium unleaded - 50L fuel tank.

Fuel consumption base model:
13 km/L - 7.7L/100km - 30.58 mpg

Fuel consumption top model:
12.4 km/L - 29.17 mpg - 8.1L/100km

Third Section:
This section is front engine/rear drive, transmission type, suspension type, brake then tyre size.
High spec brakes: ventilated discs front and rear.
Low spec brakes: ventilated front, non ventilated rear.

Last Section:
Last section is equipment which is not that easy to understand. First thing I notice is top spec has LSD for manual and auto while low spec only has LSD on manual. I'll post more if I can read more.

More update:
Both spec have VSC, front passenger and front and rear curtain bags. Top spec has front LED, leather steering wheel, 6 speakers audio (low spec has 2 speakers), white rev counter with shift light and sport pedals. Top spec also has "smart entry and start".

MORE THINGS OF NOTE:
Strut front, double wishbone rear suspension
Base halogens, optional HIDs on base trim, standard HIDs on high trim
LSD on all MT cars
Stability control standard
Only 2 speaker audio on base car

High Spec:
Has "high-quality fabric" (????????).
Option for leather heated seats with Alcantara inserts.
Steel door sill insert / scuff plate (?????????????????
Interior metallic door handle inserts
Carbon fiber center console trim
Door courtesy light
Knee pad on console

The "Customize Grade" at the bottom is interesting:
the "customize grade" bare bones model is 1190 kg !!
Unpainted bumper
16 steelies (says ornament-included, guessing it includes the logo)
plastic steering wheel
NO A/C (only a heater)
Power door locks
Sunvisor (no vanity mirror)
No speakers

the car in fact does require premium unleaded gas (???????)
the rear seat is one piece and is foldable (??????
did anyone mention that the high spec model comes with a digital speedo and tachometer? (?????????????rev?????

 

ill take a base model please!

 

not to boast or anything, but these new car designs resemble mine from years ago when i still in high school just mocking up cars for future. didnt think it would come up so soon =]
amazing car though.

 

Final name for the Toyota model is GT-86.

Pics:
http://toyobaru.net/forums/f9/toyota-gt-86-actual-photos-motherload-676/

I'm not satisfied with the final rear lamps. All earlier versions were better

 

:drool5 ............ I'll have one of these thank you........ Interesting combination - Subaru + Toyota....... I know very little about the Boxer engine (I'll have to do some research) but I'm assuming the flat 4 would help balance the car nicely, I do love the sound of a boxer engine with a decent exhaust........ the car has good power to weight with good fuel economy........ yup, gimme, gimme, gimme.

 

Ours will be called the Toyota GT-86

Sounds better than Scion FT-86 or not?

 

they need to call it a celica! imo the size, power, sportieness all add up too a celica grand child not rolla. the only reason i can think they wouldnt is because of the boxer. personally im not a big fan of the boxer sound.

-it is showing 2800lbs and 200hp (figure 150rwhp..ish?) im a bit scared of the weight as this seems to be the downfall of all the newer 2dr sports. i.e. eclipse and rx-8.

 

there not calling it a celica because its RWD jon

 

In my opinion it has more MR2 potential then celica, except for the 2+2 idea, the rest is pure MR2 in my opinion.

 

The first 3 generations of the Celica were RWD
I think it's not the reason, they just think it's a new car, and they say it's in relationship with the AE-86 cult-car and the first ever Toyota sports car, that had a boxer as well.

 

The engine is similar to the 4. gen 3SGE (BEAMS):
- same 200HP at same 7000 rpm
- almost same 205Nm at a little higher rpm (6400)
- 86*86 bore / stroke is the same too

Compression is higher (12.5:1), and I'm reeeally courious about what system does it have for timing.

Weight distribution is 53:47, and yes, the boxer engine helps a lot keeping the centre of gravity down: 460mm.

 

I know I am in the minority here, but I do not like it, I guess I am old school.
It looks like a freakin hyundai to me, everything now is bulky,round, and bubbly,
with ugly headlights and tail lights. It is not a Celica. Of course to me the only Celicas
are the 1st,4th, and 5th gens. :thumbsup: We need to come together and design a 8th gen
that combines all the best attributes of the 1st,4th, and 5th gens. Retro style :hehe
My favorite gen Celicas
1. 4th (the bullet)
2. 1st (close second, the classic)
3. 5th
4. 3rd
5. 6th (ugly ass)
6. 7th (chick car)
7. 2nd (pontiac sunbird)

 

+1 - well put

Stick some Hyundai or Kia badges on it!
Even the 202 is too bland for my liking, great cars have their own styling and don't follow trends.
147kw - Awesome?, with that kinda power it will soon be forgotten

I think the gen7 is a styling masterpiece, if only it had a motor to go with the looks...
Some "Beef in the burger" to quote John Force

 

-yep, here its considered a "girl" car. i got so much crap for it when i had one, but its uber comfortable inside (cockpit like), handles great, and even my gt was a peppy little car. its really a very nice car. could use more power for sure, but i think the biggest problem with that is the engine(s) a basically un-upgradeable.

-200hp with a cog that low should handle amazingly. the brz sti will have a carbon fiber roof to further lower it. hopefully the boxer they use will be easilly upgradeable and access weight easilly shed....remember the elise is 200hp (2zz 7th gen motor) @1800lbs, and will smoke damn near anything around a track. so if you could see 275 hp at say 2500lbs with a cog lower than an elise youd be onto something. i think aftermarket support and upgradeability will make or break it. good reason to go boxer rather than a new yota motor.

-ill say this.... the landcruiser is almost paid off. just need a house with one more stable :thumbsup: would be wary of the first year though.