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AL'S 86 Celica ST162 (s) **UPDATE Back in the drivers seat**

Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by alman162, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. XR Pilot

    XR Pilot Well-Known Member

    Heh fark that gearbox, was a massive PITA compared to mine. Pretty much every nut and bolt was seized....

    I think you guys are missing something here guys, the point isn't to run aribitary ignition timing numbers, but more so to get the ignition timing dialed in to suit an individual motor and the combination of parts on it. You can loose power by over-advancing your timing, and still not have the motor pinging at all. Hence the point of dyno tuning :D

    Oh and FWIW, it was 130.5hp not 130.1 :D Very solid effort. I'd be willing to wager with some more work in the right places you could get 135-140s from that fairly easily.
     
  2. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    that could be the case in the near future. the drive home was fun by the way brogan haha

    oh and i raced a bike :p was pretty fun... 2 bikes actually.. and they gave me the thumbs up after it hahaha it was through corners
     
  3. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    wooooo! got my car back!

    its been a month since i drover her last and things are looking good :)

    engine was rebuilt with a little list of things done that ill post up when i get the invoice, but in general im happy.... it sucks having to wear it in tho! only have 900 more km's to go till i can service her, get a tune then see what shes made of :D
     
  4. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    woohoo!
     
  5. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    hahaha good to see your excited..... hint of sarcasm? hahaha i've been driving as much as possible to get past 1000km's !
     
  6. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    not sarcasm more jealousy I want my car back on the road lol
     
  7. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    yeah, i had it off the road for a month and i was having withdrawal symptoms haha cant imagine how your feeling!
     
  8. 89celicagt

    89celicagt Well-Known Member Staff Member Super Moderator Donated!

    You guys aren't the only ones, uggg, my winter car sux balls, it doesn't even have a stereo in it. As for the Celi it just sits, no road time since it's winter. I miss the little things y'know, 5-sp, handling/cornering, my stereo etc... :D It's march already tho, 'vert weather only a couple months away now. :wink:
    -K
     
  9. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    i love australia
     
  10. ssscorpin110

    ssscorpin110 Guest

    i wanna visit there (does that count?), the girls look hot. maybe its just their accent not sure lol how are the girls down there in general? (lol ya just a little random and off topic)
     
  11. Ant1

    Ant1 Well-Known Member

    Not too bad... The thing that is too bad is that the majority are sluts.
     
  12. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    very nice numbers! i just looked at your dyno results. i'm impressed!
     
  13. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    pass the 1k mark yet?
     
  14. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    cheers man! i was pretty happ as well... its yet to go on the dyno after the rebuild but it feels a little faster. mainly smoother but feels a whole lot more responsive and rev happy!

    and yes, i've passed the run in stage! gave her a service and then drove it nice for a while longer... shes feeling pretty premium atm

    really happy with it!
     
  15. Alwayzsidewayz

    Alwayzsidewayz ST162 Guru Donated!

    Nice one sounds good, I really miss not owning a rev happy 16v lump, your making me want to find space for a 162 lol.
     
  16. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    lol it revs pretty fast and hard now! hits 100km/h in second and thats well into redline and it shows no sign of backing off or anything!

    but i did race a turbo mitsubishi cordia today and it made me wanna get a turbo lol guess we'll have to have a car for every need lol
     
  17. Ant1

    Ant1 Well-Known Member

    Keep the ST162 as a daily, and get a turbo charged car for weekend, and that... Saves petrol, lol.

    You lost your license and your racing! :lol:
     
  18. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    well, i figured i've already lost it so.... haha nar i never went very fast just in and out of roundabouts and then onto a freeway... nothing special. got my ass handed to me anyway haha
     
  19. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    we'll, she's abck in the workshop getting some minor stuff fixed. oil pump was leaking from rear and a few little things here and there...

    hopefully its out soon! looking forward to drivng it again!
     
  20. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    well, a small update on the celica. there was some confusion/disbelief (on toymods) with the hp outputs of my engine... it was making 130.1 hp@front treads and thats pretty high for a gen1 3sge. actually it seems really high. i dont have much technical data to prove this is correct but i do have other proof. One of Brogans (xr pilot from forums) mates owns a SSS pulsar and it had a few minor mods done and it was putting out 108 hp@ the front treads on the same dyno my celica was on (which is the same dyno brogans old celica was on and hit 123fwhp)... which is about what its meant to be putting out (usually between 105 and 110 fwhp) and matches other readings for the same car on different dynos.

    therefore i have no reason to believe its not a correct reading... i know its high for a gen1 3sge.

    here's a list of things done during the rebuild of my engine:
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    It was put back on the dyno 2nite to see how it was running after the rebuild and tune it up, make sure it was running well and adjust the timing...

    on the first run the timing was retarded majorly and it ran about 116 fwhp. so we upped the timing to what its meant to be at and it was hitting about 125ish. then we advanced a little more and this was the result:

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    note: i know the dates wrong, it was on the rollers only 2nite....

    the red line was the previous from my first time on the dyno a few months back and the blue line was 2nites best run... its not much different at all (less than 2hp) but i just thought i'd chuck it up and show everyone....

    MAX: 131.8 FWHP

    and i am pretty darn stoked :D
     

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