Post up your pics of what you think toyota could have done a better job at designing I stole this one from Stig, its the wiring loom protector that goes over the front of the valve covers
Plastics end tanks on their radiators - especially the ST165. Just plain stupid. At least my frustration motivated me to get the ASI ST165/162 aluminum radiator made 8)
You are my hero for doing that Rick. I see on ebay I can get 1 shipped to my door for about $220 now and I considered getting one for my GTS but I still have 2 brass rads so I'll spend that $220 on something else.
^Thanks. I will say that I'm a bit choked that our guys paid more on the initial run and now the price has dropped so dramatically. Overall, it's good for the Gen4 community, so I'm happy about that part.
power steering HP hose, honeslty whos hasnt let go. sunroof/seal spare wheel well thats not deep enough by like an inch im sure il think of more haha
How long we got? Few fave hates of mine Dipstick tube location wooden plank that protects the abs, was a plastic / metal so hard to design??? Window lifter switch, too easy to snap Door pull internal, the trim round it, way to easy to damage The AFM :evil: :evil: :evil: The location of the knock sensor!!! Just a few of my thoughts
i personally hate the cup holders in my car first off if you stop to hard the cover hits that what ever your drinking and ive had the cups spill because of that, also the cover is so breakable when someone gets into the back or if you bump it. i broke mine the 2nd day i owned the car. location of the oil filter, right under the headers no leverage to remove it at all. that was a bitch to get out, had to buy a oil filter wrench...
1. Definitely wished they put more effort in making the doors seal better at the top. I love the frameless window's but when it hits -20 degrees and lower (lowest is -40 usually) there is more ice on the inside of my window's than the outside; not so easy to scrape ice off the inside of the window. 2. Turning radius; teeeerrible in these cars. Hmm...I dunno, all I can think of right now! :mrgreen: Overall, the 4th gens. are freaking AWESOME!
To be fair, stuff does wear & tear after 20 years - seen any 20yr old Honda's lately? The Gen4 was a radical departure for Toyota and they did rectify most of the flaws on later models Check out the Gen5 harness holder I bought yesterday, it even extends down past the alternator There are a lot of strange ideas on the cars, it helps make them unique I hate: The flimsy grille clips The stupid speaker sizes Taking the entire lower dash & console out to get at the radio The unmarked and hidden fuse panels The chrome window beading inserts The leaky rear windows, tail lights and bootlid The stupid conrod oil holes Single core radiators on high performance 2L motors Rear springs too close to the hubs The location of the RHD brake master The access to the cambelt etc and those silly covers GE starter location? why 3 piece flimsy front spoiler
I believe that Toyota should have kept it rwd. I would like the my Celica so much more, and probably keep it till the wheels fall off... and then put them back on and drive it some more! And stig, I agree with you on getting to the radio. Pull out the center console, undo the glove box and the plastic under the wheel, THEN pull the stuff out from around the radio.
+1 on the speaker sizes and deck removal. removing the deck in my 5g takes all of 30 seconds, the 4g takes more like 30 minutes. the placement of the screws for the rear speakers on the Coupe is terrible as well, I'd have to use this terrible flex extension on a screwdriver which still wouldn't bend enough so I'd strip the screws out more and more each time, such a hassle.
lol, my best time for removing the deck is a little less than 20 minutes - I took out my new one and installed the old one when I got the 4runner. Though it is still a pain to remove it.
^Me too, I'm so used to removing the stereo and heater control panel now that it only takes me a few minutes to get in and out. Still a PITA though, the whole car is like a damned interlocking jigsaw puzzle :x
^^ lol tell me about it.... My brother started taking the front end apart on his '87 GT so he can put his new fender on. He got the fender on but after finishing putting my seats in etc. I helped out putting it all back together and heck we couldn't get the bolts on the front bumper bolts re-alined and nuts installed so now the front bumper and license plate holder is held on by...of all things...duct tape...lol. He had to go to work so that's why we had to imper vise. There's no grill on either...lol.