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Screw the old Vert! I got an ALl-TRAC!!!

Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by scottjackson1209, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Okay so help needed! I'm trying to finish up installing my turbo with it clocked and I'm running into a bit of an issue...The piping isn't fitting between the radiator (old wrecked one so that may be part of the issue since it is a bit bent) and the down pipe...I've seen several pictures of other peoples tubing fitting through there just fine. This leads me to believe that I haven't got everything pulled out far enough. If I could get someone to take some measurements of the distance between their turbo and radiator that would be awesome! The more measurements and pictures to go along with them the better! Thanks in advance guys!
     
  2. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    New rad
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    I'm going to have to do some modifications to make it fit but it should look sweet when it's done
     
  3. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Modifications for the ST185 Mishimoto Rad

    most of this was also posted in this thread http://www.st162.net/forum/showthread.php?1264-ST165-ST162-Aluminum-Radiator&p=82060#post82060

    the rad is too wide to fit between the center section of the core support. It is about an inch too wide and both hoses have been moved about a half an inch out from where they were. So I ended up cutting out about an inch from the LH side of my center core support and located the rad so that the radiator outlet is lined up and the inlet is slightly offset (works best with the hoses).

    I am currently making some custom radiator mounts that will use the existing ones. The top mounts had to be moved towards the center of the car by a couple inches on each one.

    Area that I had to cut out

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    Red circles are the old holes for the top radiator mounts. Blue circles are where the new radiator mounts need to be.
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  4. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Modifications for the ST185 Mishimoto Rad

    The pins on the bottom of the rad are an issue as well...

    So again with some custom mounts! I didn't want to cut off the bottom mounts and re-weld them back to the rail, and the pins sat within the big hole of the mount just not within the hole of the rubber isolator, so I'm replacing the rubber isolators inside of them with some polyurethane ones with the holes offset.

    Making molds to pour the polyurethane...I had to find something that I could carve into easily to make the molds. Styrofoam that the rad shipped with seemed fitting. Used a rotary tool to carve out the styrofoam...they will need quite a bit of altering when they harden up a bit...Also I will drill the hole for the pin on the bottom of the radiator once they are fully cured.

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    aftermath (already wiped MOST of it off lol)
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    More work on the molds and pouring the polyurethane:
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    Rebuilding the top mounts for the radiator, they were pretty well worn out and falling apart when I removed them. when cured I will be sanding and painting them to make them look a bit better.
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    Had a bit of a spill....
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    For anyone curious this is the polyurethane that I used
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    Everything needed:
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  5. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Also filled engine mounts as well...I noticed that they were sagging really bad and I'm going to be running my IC piping between my down pipe and my radiator, I don't want the engine moving and pushing the piping into the rad. I did leave most of the original rubber intact to hopefully reduce some of the vibration and harshness transferred through the body since this polyurethane is incredibly hard.

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  6. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    LOL pretty much everything in the previous update was a bust! The engine mounts turned out great but that is about it. The bottom isolators for the radiator turned out horrible so I had to re-make those using high density foam for the mold instead of styrofoam. and I mad the radiator top mounts way too big and ended up making it so it was just a thin coating of urethane on the metal....So now to bring you all up to date!

    I got the car put back together only to find out that the core support was not as straight as I thought...Frustrated I took a break from the car for a week and then realized I had a parts car with a perfectly straight core support. I cut the welds for just the top section of both the core supports and got mine removed and the new one welded on in one day. Now I have got the car 90% back together, hopefully over the next couple of days I can get the front bumper on and the intercooler and piping installed.

    Parts car with no core support....sorry I didn't take any of my car, I was too excited to put the new one on.
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    My car in it's current condition.
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    Body lines looking pretty good
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    Also I clocked my turbo to a better position to allow for better routing of the IC piping. Pics to come of that.
     
  7. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    A little bit of progress today! I got everything on the front end wired up and got the bumper and intercooler on. I'm halfway through my IC piping right now. I'm not sure if I'm going to have ANY time to work on it over the next 2-3 days (which sucks with how close I am). but it should be up and running by this weekend. I've got Plastidip on the drivers side fender/bodykit so far and I'm not sure I like it...I LOVE the matte black look of it but it peels off too easy, It has started peeling ALREADY under the door just from me getting in and out a couple times. I'm thinking about doing a full matte black wrap eventually...we will see what direction this goes in.

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    JDM indicators w/LED's (I'm trying to wire these so that the bottom portion is on all the time also and just blinks for the blinker...)
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    Fog lights are wired to be on with the ignition.
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    I absolutely LOVE these corner lights! Thanks Mafix!!
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  8. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

  9. ElectrichoodGT

    ElectrichoodGT Well-Known Member

    Clutch bro!!! very nice! I plan to have mine running by this weekend!!
     
  10. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Well blew my motor....kinda...either a cracked piston or blown ring landings from going lean under boost and detonating...the car smokes like crazy now and my intake is full of oil...

    Here is the new motor I will be getting though. Has a fresh rebuild too [​IMG] Plus lots of spare and aftermarket/custom parts
     
  11. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Oh and I forgot to mention, 60 psi in cylinder1 140 in 2 80 in 3 and 150 in 4 I believe they are supposed to be at 160...
     
  12. Zaluss

    Zaluss Well-Known Member Donated!

    Jesus man. You sure you don't want my alltrac, yours seems cursed :)
     
  13. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Yeah...not getting rid of it though! Lol hopefully paying extra for a rebuilt motor will help it to stay on the road for a long while. I will also be keeping my current motor to build up with forged internals...watch for 500+ hp on that one (in 5+ years! LOL)
     
  14. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    I don't think that exhaust manifold will work in a celica
     
  15. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    I have my doubts about it but he had it on an st182 [​IMG]
     
  16. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    So got the old motor torn down, 2 pistons destroyed along with 2 of 3 rings on both pistons. Quite a bit of metal in the pan and bearings look like they were still in perfect condition before almost every single one had a chunk of ring/piston go through it lol. Bores still look perfect. New engine should be here in 2 days. I will post carnage pics tomorrow
     
  17. Zaluss

    Zaluss Well-Known Member Donated!

    Did you ever determine how you went lean and blew your motor?
     
  18. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    O2 sensor problems plus possibly bad gas. It happened immediately after filling up with gas.
     
    Last edited: Feb 9, 2015
  19. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

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    It's kinda hard to see the missing landings in these pictures. On a positive note it gave me time to clean up my engine bay a bit.
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    Then I decided I hated the white...it was all stained and looked horrible
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    Also painted the faded window trim that has bugged me since I bought the car.
     
  20. scottjackson1209

    scottjackson1209 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Forgot to add the picture

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    Hopefully in a couple months the car will be wrapped in 3M 1080 matte dark grey wrap film.

    This color
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