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My ride :) ST162 April 1986, ST165 R.I.P. Engine kept !

Discussion in 'Your 4th Gen beauty' started by lone wolf, Dec 21, 2006.

  1. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    I think that's your problem - my GT4 was one of the last cars built and it was never an option or upgrade here
     
  2. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    I will just test it. I now know for sure the metal one I have is clean and there is a free flow in it so it's not a mechanical issue there. My fan btw is permanently switched on and I always drive calm the last few miles so the pressure shouldnt be skyhigh when turning it off...
    If it still spills fluids I will try the plastic one without pressure cap and see how that works.

    btw, I allready use the 1.3 TRD (not fake Egay shit) caps ... 71degrees thermostat will be going in short time.
     
  3. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    Did a testdrive today and after 2 hours no spill under the car ... will see tomorrow :).

    IC rad keeps leaking, seems the connection that goes into the rad itself is leaking, as it's only 2 drops a day I will leave it for now, have a can under it and throw it back in whhen I go for a drive. :)

    Car drove fine, love that turbo push in the back :).
     
  4. rio

    rio Active Member

  5. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    I think some early JDM's got it
    The radiator cap pressurises the system, why would you need to pressurize it again?
    My Alfa had something similar but the "reserve tank" had two lines - one was to bleed air from the top of the radiator and the other fed water to the lowest pipe in the event of a leak.
    I'd like to build that setup into my car as it gives an extra 1l of water in an emergency
     
  6. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    so...last weekend got my shed all powered up with lights and power outlets :).

    Also got the old engine home...worked perfectly, now what to do with it....

    maybe the intake to the 3sgte, but then what to do with the rest :)

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    ps. almost no tools are in sight I see lol :).
     
  7. rio

    rio Active Member

    get rid of heavy servo pump, cast exhaust maindfold, put some pipe extractors with cheap t3 turbo , and put it in locost replica mated with w58 gearbox`rearend from supra... or build some dune buggy/auto cross fraser type of car ;)
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    :)

    or buy a ke30 and put it in there ;)

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    Last edited: Jul 2, 2012
  8. Redrkt01

    Redrkt01 Well-Known Member

    That's right, some time in 1989 Toyota issued a recall for the ST165 coolant overflow and had it replaced with a pressurized metal tank. They're hard to get because not all 1988 ST165 owners new about it or cared to take it to the dealer for the retrofit. Roy, if it comes down to it I do believe I have an extra one. Let me know if you'd like to give it a go.....GL!
     
  9. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    clean shed!! looks like the perfect place for an engine project
     
  10. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    Took of the intake manifold today. I want to clean it, port it so it fits the gasket and respray in silver. Also a new T-Vis sticker is required as the old one didn't survive today. :)

    I see some differences on the intake manifold so have to figure out what to use when going Fmic shortly :). Should I use the 3s-gte or 3s-ge gashousing or what it is called?

    btw I can't get that sensor out...more than just the 2 screws or do I have to be more brutal to it?

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  11. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Thats not a sensor, thats a cold start injector
     
  12. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    indeed :) But still, it''s stuck ! hahaha
     
  13. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    a bit of heat will move it.
     
  14. rio

    rio Active Member

    leave it you, have one 2 on st165 mainfold.... also , if u using stock ecu and wiering it is in use, use st165 throttle body, and rubber part, the fi60mm chrome pipe has snug fitt when u get your fmic... and u have the st165 instalation that has electric IACoposite the st162 that dont ,

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    delete egr in the procees, and charcoal canister..,

    and yeas CLOCK THE FUCKING TAAAARBO NOW... DONT make thos shiti over the exhaust maindfol piping - reference the picture :))



    you need to grind the notch in lower area of intake maidfold ( look at your st 165 manifold when u remove the TB), u can plug the holle beneath the 5 injektor also...or put the WI sprayer there, or use 5 injector for it if u get some nice SA ECU ... ;)))

    then u can use a egr hole in your manifold to put intake temp senzor for sa ecu /gauge... because you are get rid of egr shit Dont you ;)))

    friendly advice: drill the holle larger for the egr that u have delted , so u can in the future put the bosch intake air thermoreresistor senzor in there,,, because you will need it if going SA (the only right route), so that u dont need to do it like i when the mainfold is on car... it needs only few mm bigger hole and tap for securing bolt,, im talking abbout this :

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    oh btw. i can give u a link for prety cheap but good intercooler just about the right size to fit...
    i use a evo 6 one , but frend use that or his 280+ hp CS,, and many more guys on they drift cars over here..

    http://shop.wiltec.info/index.php/cat/c189_Intercooler.html/XTCsid/s2an3d6aj0780mut6422j951u2

    oh yeah, make some nice fi 76mm downepipe with flanage for ct20b cann provide cad drawings ;P, geting ridd of primary catalyzator (preberrably both off then) when are u in the process of making the pipes for your fmic, and also pick up a ct20b turbine form england for 150 pound for sale on gt4oc.. and put that on, ;)))) and 550 injectors for cheap , becuse u will get the SA sooner or later :))

    mine ;O)

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    oh, yeah put your 3sge cams in your 3sgte head when u are taking the mainfold off... a little thing but will net some gains;)
     
    Last edited: Jul 7, 2012
  15. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    right...so...

    All I want to do is indeed clock the turbo, use the sidefeed manifold and use the throttlebody of th st165 and see if there is more I need. I don't want to upgrade too much as I have limited funds being unemployed.

    I'll also plan to move the battery to the boot and make the intake a straight one with the Fmic. Plans enough anyways :).
     
  16. rio

    rio Active Member

    for true straith intake you need to ditch the AFM ;))) LOOL
     
  17. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    and buy an open ECU which is not on my wishlist nor budget lol :)
     
  18. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    well, went to a meeting yesterday (230 toyotas)and drove about 150 km's @ 28degrees celcius outside. All looked ok, temp was ok, boost ok, oil ok even though it went to 103celcius but that seems to be no problem.

    Found out today I could fill up about a liter coolant !!! So that sucks bigtime, as the coolant issues did not disappear as I thought... So next ride will be to change the TRD thermostat as the thermostat in it is still the one Alwayz had in it. I also am thinking about changing the radiator caps back to stock as stock has a lower pressure as the TRD caps...does that sound logical?

    Yesterday the cupholder that holds my gauge kept falling off so I was so pissed off I took my A-pillar holder and cut that up as normal sized people like me can't read the bottom 2 gauges as the upper ones are half in front of them...

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    So the a-pillar cupholder is not for sale anymore :).

    Anyone like to share thoughts about the freakin coolant issue? I saw some drops but they were so clear I thought it was from the intercooler...but so it wasn't... Strange thing is the engine did NOT overheat (on the OEM Gauge that is).
     
  19. rio

    rio Active Member

    hm,,,,,, if u have coolant lose when getting in the high temperature area. try to chek the co2 in your coolant , is it possible to get a hairline crack in the head or 20- year old oem headgasket is leaking. or did u change that when putting the motor in......

    if the coolant is on higer pressure , it will star to cook later.. try to use some fresh red toyota coolant.. or something like type G12 coolant, id should stay liquid at 1 bar even at tempertures exceeding a 110°C

    btw a friend of mine that has a 280+ Cs is using a trd cap and thermostat and even when we mallest the turbine with flat shift driving and lauch contorol turbine beccoming yelovish white off temperatures, we don get any troubles with temperature or coolant losing, or even the inffamous bubbling off the water that the 185 are infamous of.. , oh yea he got the tb COLLANT heating pipes deleted, if it is of some importance...


    btw. another thing to take into consideration, u got a water to oil cooler/heater on the 165, termodynamics 1 or 1 says if your oil temp rises high your water temp will raise also...,
     
  20. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    I noticed some drops when I shortly parked the car at my parents house and kept it running though. So my best thought is that some of the hoses are still not sealing under heat/pressure of the system. The shortblock I have is the one of trinity (alwayzsideways) which has the steel headgasket and arp bolts...so that should be a-ok.
    All coolant I have in it is new (december) and G12+. I did see the overflowbottle with the trd cap also ran dry so at least I know for sure now this is working properly. :).

    Is it a good option to get an aftermarket gauge with watertemp and maybe waterpressure as well? I'm not sure if I can trust the OEM gauge that much ;).

    So if I understand well, both my oil and coolant are ok with 100+ degrees so nothing could broke down yesterday. I will put my car up and see from below (with running and hot engine) where the shit is leaking...

    Throttle body heating pipes are for coldstarts I guess, so I drive it with warm weather only so should be able to delete that anyhow?
     

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