I've seen how bad the butterfly valve on a throttle body can get w/ carbon build up, and assume the inside of the manifold isn't much prettier. I'm gonna have mine off replacing gaskets and the fuel rail and wonder if there's a good way to really clean out the manifold? Or, is the best way to just run Sea Foam through the system when the engine's running? Thanks.
dont clean it like the mustang people, if you mess up that little bit of grunge around the edge you'll get a higher idle..
Use a throttle body cleaner that is safe for fuel injected cars....soak it, then rub it with a cloth what you can get at.. And don't use the straw in case it flys into the engine..
Letze: Sorry, don't get the Mustang reference (probably because I've never owned one). But wouldn't cleaning it and then adjusting the idle be the way to go? Rye: I take it you're talking about putting a cleaner through it when it's assembled and running. I was wondering if there's any cleaning to be done while I've got the manifold off the car. If not, cool. If so, what's the best way?
You have 2 options: 1: Take it to a machine shop and have them Chemically or Steam clean the Manifold---$30. Max 2: Brake Cleaner and a medium type wire brush, You will also need a long Bottle cleaner brush, fairly hard to find... a bunch of rags... Either way have fun and dont drop it!!!!
If it's off the car you can use the straw but it's kinda needless....and yeah, throttle body cleaner that's safe for fuel injected car's is probably better to use than brake cleaner...
Brake cleaner is a little stronger than Throttle body cleaner - plus he will still have to wash it after it is cleaned.
I think mine needs to be cleaned, along with my injectors. T-VIS doesn't seem to engage sometimes (read: most of the time).
I don't need a light to let me know if TVIS is on (nor do I have the time to install one). The sudden burst of power is usually enough. But it hasn't been doing it lately, which leads me to believe the manifold is dirty as hell. (My GTS spent the last 21 years in a garage or driving around D.C. suburbs. I'm guessing it's never actually been run on the highway much, so injectors/intake mani are probably dirty)
TVIS is no turbo, but you should definitely feel it engage at 4100-4200 RPM. I know I do when everything is running properly. I don't know how much carbon build-up might or might not play a part of low or no TVIS kick-in. Besides the intake manifold, you've got the air intake control valve between the manifold runners and the cylinder head. Seems reasonable that carbon build-up could screw up the butterfly valves in there. I've got leaks in both intake gaskets, leading to a low vacuum situation. Since TVIS is a RPM triggered, vacuum actuated system, a leak could be involved w/ a TVIS problem. My TVIS is engaging, but not to the extent it did before I developed the vacuum leaks (due, I believe, to the fact that when the engine was reinstalled twice, the shop lost/didn't reinstall two of the intake manifold stays and everything probably vibrated loose). So all new gaskets between throttle body and exhaust manifold and injectors off to Witch Hunter for cleaning, balancing, and flow charting. I just figured I might as well remove all the carbon build-up I could while everything is apart (and hopefully never have to do it again).
Understood. However, most of my driving is not around town or stop and go. I've got a 45 mile commute to work along winding roads w/ only one stop sign and then on the interstate. So for me, off-the-line isn't nearly as often as dropping it a gear and feel the extra kick around corners and passing other cars. If I could have it both ways, obviously I would (turbo AWD?) but when choosing between low rev or high rev torque, I drive more in the high rev mode.
I'm thinking it's just dirty as all hell, based on it's last 20+ years of driving. All the vacuum lines seem to be good, but I'll check them when I get home.