They arent as stiff as i'd like, but not sloppy either, big upgrade from stock springs. drop on my car ended up being more like 2 inches. also the front sits like a cm or 2 higher than the rear which bugs the crap out of me! but im content with them. The kyb struts look nice and are great for road use, unusable on a track though or if your looking for a tight suspension setup.
heres a link to them on Ebay.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/B-G-S2-Lowe...ta&hash=item3377c8606f&vxp=mtr#ht_2902wt_1088
Thanks! will be buying them soon! but, they are worthless for track? i don't go to the track, but i'm thinking on trying tho..