Another NO SPARK issue

Discussion in 'Diagnosis/Help' started by The3sgtestarlet, Feb 2, 2012.

  1. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    Here is a pic of the ecu.

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    Numbers are as follows >

    89661-20751

    175000- 3910



    I guess if you have a low 1990's model ST185 celica ecu, it should be identical aye. Thanks for checking, see what you have and well go from there, ta.
     
  2. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    Anybody know the difference by 1 digit less with this ecu. There is a ecu at a local jap import wreaker, but the last number is 0, of the 20751. the bloke said its off a ST185, so yeah, whats the difference. Could it still work with my setup.
     
  3. 1fstgts

    1fstgts Well-Known Member Staff Member Administrator Moderator Donated!

    My bad, I thought you were working on a 3SGE, not a T motor...I only have 3SGE ECU's.
     
  4. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    Thats ok.


    I just bought a $195 ecu and its still not sparking.


    Im going to dump the car till further notice. Thank you all for your advices.
     
  5. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    Ok, got some new updates.

    I installed the new ecu, and now, there is signal whilst cranking to ignitor, approx 7 volts. The output of the ignitor to the coil is also charged up, so that means the ignitor is in A+ working order. I removed the dizzy and these were the readings according to the resistance check >

    166 ohms
    166ohms
    207 ohms

    All within range.


    I will now do the last thing imaginable, replace the coil. I looked on ebay, and there is a coil which the guy tested at 10 ohms, so its i guess like brand new. My coil should >

    Primary: 1.3 ohms (technically very bad)
    secondary: 12 ohms (still within range)


    I will update asap.
     
  6. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

  7. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    Just a quick question.

    Does the coil have to be earthed aswell, or is the exposed metal plate just for heat dissipation only when bolted to the ignitor, metal frame etc.
     
  8. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Only the igniter has to be grounded the coil has both a 12 volt wire and a ground wire (2 wires in the coil plug) and the high tension output to the distributor
     
  9. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    ST185 only

    93
    JDM
    RC 89661-2B310
    GT-4 89661-2B2820

    Euro
    Grp A 89661-2B320
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    US/Can
    Alltrac 89661-20760 or 89661-20761 or 89661-2B290

    Other
    Grp A 89661-2B320
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    92
    JDM
    RC 89661-2B310
    Grp A 89661-20751
    Wide-4 89661-2B280
    Narrow-4 89661-20750 or 89661-20751

    Euro
    Grp A 89661-2B320
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    US/Can
    Alltrac 89661-20760 or 89661-20761 or 89661-2B290

    Other
    Grp A 89661-2B320
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    91
    JDM
    RC 89661-2B310
    Grp A 89661-20751
    Wide-4 89661-2B280
    Narrow-4 89661-20750 or 89661-20751

    Euro
    Grp A 89661-2B320
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    US/Can
    Alltrac 89661-20760 or 89661-20761 or 89661-2B290

    Other
    Grp A 89661-2B320
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    90
    JDM
    Grp A 89661-20751
    Narrow-4 89661-20750 or 89661-20751

    Euro
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300

    US/Can
    Alltrac 89661-20760 or 89661-20761 or 89661-2B290

    Other
    GT-4 89661-20770 or 89661-2B300
     
  10. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    The saga continues.


    Major clue number 1:
    The coil output (secondary lead to dizzy shows only 12 volts on cranking. Why such low voltage?

    Open circuit relay working A+
    EFI relay working A+
    Coil working A+
    ECU in A+ order
    Fuses/links all A+
    Dizzy A+, resistance within range
    Ignitor has 1 volt signal from ecu
    From ignitor to coil has 12 volts.


    Wiring is connected A+.


    So yeah, i am currently experiencing a curse.
     
  11. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    BTW: all wires of the dizzy are getting voltage on cranking. So this would mean that the dizzy is working, re: the teeth and magnetic part of the inside rotor, you know what i mean. the gap was like 1mm.
     
  12. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    New update.


    Now, when checking resistance across the distributer terminals, there is new light to why there is no spark, i just hope its this dizzy >

    G1 - G = 166 Ohm
    G2 - G = 166 Ohm
    NE - G = NOTHING, no results whatsoever. (should be between 155- 240 ohm)

    This is the last straw to the standard ecu system and to this investigation. If i replace the dizzy and there is still no spark, im going aftermarket with a side intake manifold conversion.
     
  13. 1fstgts

    1fstgts Well-Known Member Staff Member Administrator Moderator Donated!

    Yeah, sounds like the dizzy has issues.
     

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