So my 3rd gear is completely trashed!!! No matter how hard I try it will NOT go into third....just grinds. My question is whether a transmission from a 1989 2.5L V6 Camry would work...I believe it is an E52. I am planning on doing a 3sgte swap down the road, would this trans work for that as well? how much power could this handle? this trans has 137k miles on it should i be concerned? One last question....How are the syncros on the E series transmissions?
also what sort of special skills/tools are required to rebuild a trans? I may just go that route if its not to hard.
Someone with some information on this topic please reply with what is needed for this swap to work. i am supposed to pick up the trans first thing tomorrow morning.
Im surprised no one has responded yet, saying that i may not be qualified to answer but i thinks your problem with the E52 is probally axles fitting right and probally shifter cables. might need the v6 axle and hubs. As for a direct fit to block i dont even know try google alot somebody has to have somthing on it. im sure there more stuff too. if you consider rebuilding trans you would need a gear puller and way to pull engine i assume im no mechanic im 18 most of my knowledge is theoretical rather than practical so someone else dont be afraid to correct me. id like to see where this goes im also considering tranny swap on my vert.
What information? I don't think an e52 will work to be honest. Transmissions mounted to S-series motors (3sge, 3sfe, 5sfe, etc). I have an e153 transmission in my car from a SW20 (mr2 turbo).
sorry for a late reply. yes it will work. you'll need: trans 1990-1995 mr2 turbo non lsd inner axles st165 or lexus es250 outer axles (plus all 12 bolts) some cars need the st165 north/south crossmember but bot Tim and I are still using the stock crossmember. (you'll need to modify the rear torque mount placement) st165 upper trans mount assembly st165 shifter cables hybrid clutch setup that's it. as if that isn't a long enough list.
That list is longer than i care to buy! lol would an s51 work? it is out of a 1997 camry with a 5s-fe....i guess those supposedly have an s51
So from what I've read all it requires to fit the S51 into an MR2 is swapping the shifter linkage to the other side....since this is what you do to convert a MR2 trans to FWD then it should require NO mods right??? PLEASE tell me i'm right!! I would LOVE to just get an s53 and call it good but I can't find any with less than 200K miles for a decent price and this s51 has under 100k. would a regular clutch for an s53/3sfe combo work with the S51?
It takes more than swapping linkage. You need the shift linkage, cable brackets, selector arm(s), speed sensor off the top of my head. Then you'll need to use hybrid MR2/Alltrac axles.
Why would I need all of this? The shift linkage is supposedly the same as the S53. I also dont understand why i would need MR2/Alltrac axles since this transmission was never a part of those cars. This trans is out of a 1999 camry....if i could get the axles would those ones work? I also heard something about swapping the center casing over....would this work?
4thgenceli, you don't quite get what he means. he was on the mr2 forums, in which the selectors are facing the wrong way. meaning, if he is applying the S51 to a celica, he DOENST need to switch the selectors around. for me i took a s54 from a 97 celica with a 5s-fe, i used a stock st162 clutch/pressure plate/release bearing, but i had to swap the clutch fork from my original s53 to use on the s54 (and since i had a 3s-ge i had to switch to the bigger diameter 5s-fe flywheel) my axles went right in. but i had to change the speed sensor from the electronic one to the original cable one from my s53. for you, the s51 should work with the st162 clutch (i suggest getting a new clutch kit now), but again you're gonna have to grab the clutch fork from your original trans. you don't need a new flywheel because the 3s-fe is already the bigger diameter one (maybe resurface?) but they're 50 something dollars from autozone, might be worth it. axles, i don't know if the 3s-fe one fits on the s51, but i would think that at least the 3s-ge ones would. then of course you need to put in the cable speed sensor from your original box. swap over the motor mounts from your old box and that should be okay. the axles may be the part you're need to check out. i learned a lot of what i needed to do WHILE i was doing the swap, so give it a shot, let us know.
In my opinion he's approaching it all wrong. When all is set & done he'll probably spend about the same amount of money as opposed to getting a S53/S54 transmission and calling it a day. It's not that hard to rebuild a standard transmission with the right tools either. Just takes some time to get it sorted out and find all the right parts from Toyota. Either way you're thinking too much into this. S53/S54 transmissions are a plenty. You can find them on other forums from people parting or swapping transmissions. Car-Part shows numerous transmissions in the Washington area for a few hundred. Cash always talks too. I've walked in and got the part for well over half off listed price.
I found an s53 today that I am going to pick up. that s51 was the first thing i found in my price range. My trans was run without lubrication before I got it...I got it for almost free and knew it would need replaced. I don't believe it is rebuildable because it was run without any lubrication I found plenty on CL and Ebay with 190K miles and didnt want to spend $300 + $200+ for shipping on a trans that would need rebuilt right away. Also I've heard alot of good things about the S51 transmission. It is supposed to improve fuel economy substatially. but I went with a S53
absolutely. in my opinion, the S51 is an upgrade to the S53. hence why it may have been worth it to pursue this. 60mph@2300rpm?? in 5th gear? hell yeh! basically the S51 is just the replacement for the long ratio s53 that comes with the 3s-fe. they had to make a new s54 for the celica to accomodate more torque from a 2.2L, but keeping it sporty. late 80s: S53 short ratio (celica-GE), S53 longer ratio (celica/camry-FE) 90s: S54 short ratio (celica 5s-fe), S51 long ratio (camry 5s-fe)
