My compression test results, performance woes...

Discussion in 'Diagnosis/Help' started by dan1_721, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    OK Guys. Finalkly went and grabbed a comp tester yesterday. Did the test. Got 180, 170, 170, 180 basically. When i repeated with the throttle wide open, basically got about 195, 190, 190, 200 or so.

    How are these results? What do they mean?

    Also checked the plugs. Clean as, apart from a bit of oil on the threads haha. The tips however, are spotless. My oil loss is from all the leaks. Valve cover, massively leaking out dizzy seal, all over back of motor.

    I believe these comp test results are a little high. Tjis means carbon inside the motor, correct? WHat can I try to correct this? Hotter plugs?

    I have wanteed to try the trick of auto trans fluid in the intake, meant to clean alot of sludge. ALso you guys have Seafoam, what is it? I need to find something like that in Aus.

    Also, need to change fuel filter, air filter, doubnt that os where my problem lies. Also clean out intake and TB, and make sure the TVIS is ok.

    Afthat, where do i go? The motor is obviously internally fine, all new igntion components.... Air filter is only slightly dusty, dunno bout fuel filter.

    Thing is, the car still struggles to build up revs., it doesnt ,miss or run rough, just wont rev....

    REALLY want to sort this, so I can chuck in some lower springs, new brake pads and enjoy actually DRIVING it.
     
  2. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    Also, does the valve clearance have to be checked/adjusted on a 3SGE?

    And what can I do to see if my motor is a JDM item...?
     
  3. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    178 psi or above is normal.
    142 psi is minimum.

    Valve clearance can be checked. If adjustment is needed you will need to get a shim kit and replace the original shim with a new one of the correct size.
     
  4. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    The test is meant to be done with the throttle open, correct?

    so my motor is ok inside then?
     
  5. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Okay Compression Test

    1) remove all 4 spark plugs
    2) unplug the cold start injector
    3) unplug the 4 fuel injectors
    4) floor the gas pedal and crank the engine for 2-3 seconds
    5) take the highest reading the guage gave you.

    From your results I would say the motor is okay inside.
     
  6. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    I didnt unplug any injectors, just pulled the fuel fuse and the car wudnt run afta that, so i figured that was ok?

    Thanks St165. Thats a massive relief! Itl be ok outside afta I change the dizzy seal and seal up the crappy valve covers haha.
     
  7. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    your numbers are excellent. dont change anything.
     
  8. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    Excellent numbers, yet It still has no performance. This thing does a 0-60mph as you guys put it, in 12 seconds flat!
     
  9. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    Can incorrect valve clearance affect the performance? HOw likely is it that this is a problem?
     
  10. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Yes it could affect the performance but I doubt that is your problem given the good compression results you have.

    I have completed scanning the ST162 Engine Mechanical section so you might want to have a look through that as it shows you the process for checking your valve clearances.

    Heres one of the pages from the trouble shooting section.

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    My guess would be timing but I don't know much about your engine.

    How many KM on the engine ?
    Original TIMING BELT ?

    I would guess that the intake or exhaust cam has jumped a tooth on the belt or the timing is not set correctly assuming you have tested things like vacuum leaks and electrical components.
     
  11. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    The timing i Was told was set to 10 degrees, i went to short the diagnostic connector, but my helper already had the light on it and said it was on 10 degrees anyway. I think I may have found my prob, that would mean diff timing than whats it is meant too, if it read 10 without the connection shroted correct? On a healthy motor like mine seems to be, whats a good timing setting if i will run 98 octane? Whats the JDM setting?

    Car has done 198,000kms, motor dunno if is original, but shud b. Timing belt label on the belt cover is marked with a replacement date in 1999, the kms on it are hard to read....

    If timing doesnt fix it, can i easily check to see if the belt is on right?
     
  12. XR Pilot

    XR Pilot Well-Known Member

    Make sure your engine light is flashing when your setting the timing, otherwise your timing will be retarded and the car will run light a slug. I also say your compression test results are excellent, I would look at fueling/ignition as the cause of your problem moreso than the motor itself.
     
  13. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    Will try and get hold of a timing light tomorrow, and check it again. If that isa right though, then I dunno. Il just try advancing it slowly anyway ad see what happens?

    XR-Pilot, what timing were you running on your good 162, and what sorta fuel were you putting in it? Hoping this motor will make some good power with those test results
     
  14. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    To check to see if your timing belt has jumped a tooth you will need to remove N0. 2 Timing Belt Cover.

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    Step 15
    Then you will need to set No. 1 cylinder to TDC (pic EM2469)
    Then you need to look at the 2 gears and verify that the mark on each gear is aligned with the mark on the cover behind it (pic C8727).

    If you've got 198,000km and the belt was changed in 99 then it was probably replaced around 100,000km. It may have even been changed at 60,000km I don't know what the original belts were specified for. But either way it would be a good idea to at least inspect the belt and considering the amount of damage that a broken belt can cause I would replace the belt.
     
  15. mephtar

    mephtar Well-Known Member

    the air flow meter is responsible for Air to fuel mixture above liek 50% throttle on soem cars, its possible your might be screwed up aswell. On a side note when I jump the T and E1 terminals my dash light dose not come on, is it likyl burnt out?
     
  16. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Does it come on when you first start the car. All warning lights should come on for a couple of seconds when you first start the car.
     
  17. mephtar

    mephtar Well-Known Member

    nope, none of them besides seatbelt, and fuel light wen im low on gas occasionaly
     
  18. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Not even your check engine light when you first start the car?
     
  19. mephtar

    mephtar Well-Known Member

    all i can remember seeing is my seatbelt, Ill pay close attention next time but I jumped T and E1 and looked on the dash for the light with no luck. Is it possible i got some burnt bulbs?
     
  20. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Yes if your warning lights don't come on when you first start the car the bulbs are probably burnt out.
     

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