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maxing out a na 2se

Discussion in '2se' started by charger56, Jul 13, 2008.

  1. charger56

    charger56 Guest

    I am racing an '86 with an automatic.was woundering if it would be benificial to run a throttle body off of a tvis engine? What about the ignitor box and ditributor? can they be swaped from engine to engine? just looking to max out the horsepower while using all stock parts
  2. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    not to sound too rude or blunt but...
    you are running a 2s. that engine is mostly part specific. you're stuck.

    are you allowed to use a 3s engine?
  3. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

  4. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    I don't know much about the 2se but I'm guessing

    If you can't improve engine performance then look at suspension and handling. Especially brakeing for an oval track going into the corners. If you can't get more acceleration exiting the corners then decelerate later going into the corners.
  5. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Put a manual tranny in it.

    Mafix will a 2se engine bolt to a 3sge tranny?

    You don't happen to have a digital guage cluster in that car do you?
  6. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    i believe so yes.
  7. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    also on you setup.
    put the fuel pressure reg back in and hook up the o2s. you are sitting in default "pig rich". that will help a bunch. remove the head and change the pistons to raise compression to 11:1 and install oversized valves. port match everything.
    are you allowed to modify the intake manifold?
  8. charger56

    charger56 Guest

    We're not supposed to touch anything as per the rules. now what I was thinking is that if the maf was similar I could use one off of the 3s to increase the air flow,same as the throttle body. I could always repin the connector of the maf to match.
  9. rye

    rye Well-Known Member Donated!

    What have you done in terms of reducing the weight in the car?
  10. Dman_23

    Dman_23 Guest

    Manual tranny will help out a lot. You can run the whole race in 2nd ot 3rd gear, depending on speed you can go on your track. You might need 4th gear to keep the revs down on the 2se. But likely 3rd would be alright. I run in third and I only hit 6300 rpm, and that's at a longer track, so if you're going slower you should be fine. With a manual you get rid of extra weight, and drag losses.

    Engine power is not nearly as important as good handling. But as mafix said, running with the o2 sensor and fuel pressure regulator with probably give better performance.

    Reducing wieght has a neglible effect. We have a weight penalty rule here (new for this season), and even after 100lbs added, it still won't slow cars down.

    You could also try running a 3sfe with any dohc labels removed. Most people have no idea that it's a twin cam, because it only has one external cam gear.

    You should PM me about suspension setup, I'd like to hear what you have.
  11. charger56

    charger56 Guest

    as far as weight reduction, the interior has all been removed,all unnessacery parts have been removed. bare bones of a shell.full roll cage that ties into rear bumper and strut towers.
  12. 86GTMonkey

    86GTMonkey Well-Known Member

    A race Celica with a 2se? I want pics of this, it sounds awesome.

    I can't help with anything, my 2se Celi got junked before I could learn anything about it.
  13. celicaman

    celicaman Well-Known Member Donated!

    a 2s-e will hook up with a 3s-ge manual transmission you just have to use the flywheel from the 3s-ge. i am going to use a 3s ecu, wiring harness and maf on my 2s-e.
  14. 187flatliner

    187flatliner Seat Breaker Donated!

    any pics?
  15. celicaman

    celicaman Well-Known Member Donated!

    of my 2s-e?
  16. 187flatliner

    187flatliner Seat Breaker Donated!

    of the celi
  17. celicaman

    celicaman Well-Known Member Donated!

    ya i do but there all on my facebook i cant seem to post pictures on here.
  18. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    right click the pictures on facebook, hit "copy image url" or something similar, paste on to a post here
  19. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    You kiddin?
    Even the block can't take GE or FE pistons, manifolds, dizzy etc just won't fit!

    Cheaper, easier, quicker to go for a FE or GE. All the classes I know have restrictions on 16v heads
    ie 1600cc 16v = 2000cc 8v = 12A bridge port rotary = 1300cc 8v turbo = 13B Street port rotary,
    which means your class should allow 4A-GE's and you can use a wider variety of cars.

    We used that base for our 4 cyl oval hotrods to keep costs down and keep it fair, if someone wasn't up to scratch he was given permission to bore/port his motor further

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