Im looking into my options for headers. I know that 2nd gen headers are a direct bolt on, but what about headers for a 3rd gen 3sge, are they interchangeable with 1st gen? Im not worried about having to fab something up to connect to current exhaust, mainly just wondering if they will bolt on and clear the starter or not. What other option do I have short of custom made?
well you can also use FE headers i believe. for example i had the pacesetter header. i don't see why a 3rd gen or even a 5s header wouldn't work.
there are some on ebay for a 1.8l 3sge, that dosnt even exist, but what are the odds of this fitting? http://cgi.ebay.ca/Performance-Header-T ... dZViewItem is the main issue with the FE header that they do not clear the starter of the GE?
that one will not work at all. the engine code is wrong. that is for a 5th gen st chassis. which is a 7afe? something like that.
Hey Mafix, you said you had this header on your 3s-ge? i think this here is the same correct? http://cgi.ebay.ca/82-89-Toyota-Celica- ... otohosting you also mentioned that 5s headers would be identical aswell? such as http://cgi.ebay.ca/Toyota-Celica-2-...yZ133195QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I know it will not bolt directly to the rest of the exhaust piping but id just like to know if it will clear the starter and block so I could rig everything back up to it. Thanks,
I think ive found one that will work. 5s-fe header for an MR2. Looks like it will clear the starter fine, and from what i understand the 5s-fe is a 3s-fe with larger stroke. It looks like the correct bolt pattern and same port configuration. with some modification I think it will bolt up fine. I read a few places that 5s-fe header was interchangeable with the 3sfe and then 3sfe and 3sge have the same pattern and such, but can anyone confirm they have herd this too? or just take a look at the pictures and see if it looks like it would fit. Compare with this FE header for bolt spacing and port placement.
I think #3 & 4 cylinder ehaust pipes may have clearance issues with your rad/rad fans It looks to me like you have the starter down there and a couple inches out from that you have #1 & 2 cylinder exhaust pipes curving in and then out from that you have # 3 & 4 exhaust pipes. So that makes them stick out pretty far forward if they were to be mounted in a GTS.
thanks for the observation, ill check out the clearance soon, I woudlnd mind doing a but of modification to make the can and rad clear. Ill see what I can do. Is it possible to weld stainless steel with standard steel wire?
I copied and pasted this: Stainless steels can be welded using several different procedures such as shielded metal arc welding, gas tungsten arc welding, and gas metal arc welding. These steels are slightly more difficult to weld than mild carbon steels. The physical properties of stainless steel are different from mild steel and this makes it weld differently. These differences are: Lower melting temperature, Lower coefficient of thermal conductivity, Higher coefficient of thermal expansion, Higher electrical resistance.
Ive got my mr2 header, and yes it fits, yes it clears the starter. BUT its not so easy, need to modify the flange to make it clear the cross braces and will require some custom work. After 4 hours work and ive got it mounted, just not attached to the rest of the exhaust system
