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Engine Swap

Discussion in '3sge' started by dan1_721, Feb 12, 2008.

  1. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    So who has swapped a 3SGE for another 3SGE? Or similar?

    Need some feedback on how hard, how long, what you need, problem areas etc. I recall hearing the driveshafts out the trans can be a real pain, apart from that im sure its mostly lots of disconnecting wires and hoses, unbolting everything and trying to wrestle the thing out wothout destroying too much of the car..

    Would also want to put a new clutch in the trans while it an the motor are seperated....

    Havent done this before, keen to have a go, would have to be able to get it done in like 2 days though, like starting early one day, and having that day and the next to complete it.

    Would obviously need help from someone, I have a willing volunteer but she has never done anything either....

    Seriously willing to do it, as I know a shop would charge lots for all the labour involved, and probably cut corners etc anyways


    Thanks guys :D
     
  2. mephtar

    mephtar Well-Known Member

    you will need more than 2 days Id guess for your first time. Never done it but give yourself aa bigger cusion
     
  3. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Well my first Celica took 3 8 hour days to complete but I had to pull 2 engines as the engine I was putting in my GTS was still in another car.

    The only special tools I think you will need are a hoist and a clutch alignment tool.

    The basic procedure should go something like the following.

    DISCONNECT
    - battery

    DRAIN
    - radiator/fan
    - engine oil

    REMOVE
    - radiator
    - altenator
    - power steering pump
    - AFM & intake hose
    - air filter box
    - you may want to remove the cruise control mechanism to make more room
    - you may want to remove the battery & tray to make more room

    DISCONNECT
    - heater hoses
    - tranny cables
    - speedometer cable
    - throttle cable
    - electrical plugs
    - clutch line
    - exhaust pipe
    - half shafts ( I could not remove the drivers side half shaft so I pulled it with the tranny)

    SUPPORT THE ENGINE/TRANNY WITH THE HOIST

    DISCONNECT
    - 4 engine/tranny mounts

    SLOWLY RAISE THE ENGINE/TRANNY AND DISCONNECT ANY REMAINING PLUGS/HOSES
     
  4. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    Then the reverse to refit haha.

    Think I could do it St165? The 2 days would be with the other motor ready to go in, and all parts and tools I need. I would have to pull the old one, and chuck the new one in.

    As for picking one at the wreckers, what else do I need to look out for apart from compression testing, and the oil cond?
     
  5. XR Pilot

    XR Pilot Well-Known Member

    Took me roughly 4 hours today on Alex's to pull the motor/gearbox out :)

    But yeah for your first time, allow a few days atleast... Take the cam covers off at the wreckers too and inspect the cam lobes for wear and the condition of the head. If it is sludged up and covered in black goo walk away as it is a sign of a poorly maintained motor.
     
  6. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    8 hours or less to do an AWD. we rock!
     
  7. dan1_721

    dan1_721 Guest

    Damn Mafix, thats quick! Not surprised though....
     
  8. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    takes us less than a day to do a "kind" strip on a 165.
    "kind" means no cutting and no breaking. completely down to the frame not 1 bolt left behind.
     
  9. ith85

    ith85 Guest

    i have removed and fitted a 3s-ge engine in my car 2 time and found that its is easyer at least for me to drop the engine out, that is to jack the car right up after every thing is disconnected attach the hoist/lift to the engine get tension then undo the cross bars at the bottom and then do the engine mounts and slowly lower the engine to the ground while watching for anything do disconnected or catching, and have some sort of mat underneath so you can drag the engine out from under the car, then slide the other one in and lift
     

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