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Digi dash fuel sender

Discussion in 'Parts Wanted' started by Seank90, May 17, 2011.

  1. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    as above... this probably will be here a while :hehe
     
  2. jwagner162

    jwagner162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    -between the single poly mount, 165 single side skirt, and the digi fuel sender.....i think we need a poll on who's gonna be up the longest.

    :lachtot

    -sry guys i had to.
     
  3. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    the race is on!!!! :thumbsup:
     
  4. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    hey i tried out my analog fuel sender with the A14/A19/A20 on the digi dash pins and all combinations did not work. i think the analog one is a straight voltage difference sender, while the digital one is a pulse type. i was shorting out two of the wires from the digi dash and if you just touch the wires a millisecond, it will show as empty fuel, if you hold it together for about half a second it will be full fuel, and everything in between.

    i have no idea how this helps, but i hope it does
     
  5. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    so we need to make a pulse circut from the analoge sender!!!
     
  6. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Well for the Analog guage the sender is just a variable resistor
    Empty is 4 ohms
    Full is 110 ohms

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    So if we can find the test for the digital sender then it may be possible to create
    a conversion circuit
     
  7. ST165-2765

    ST165-2765 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Your taking a big chance of frying the circuit board by doing that. The wire from your analog
    fuel sender is at worst a very good ground and at best a poor ground. As you can see
    in the following diagram wire C7 yellow with a red stripe goes through a variable resistor
    to ground so if your gas tank is almost empty wire C7 is a very good ground luckilly their
    is at least 4 ohms resistance so that may have saved your display but still almost all of the
    voltage would have gotten through. If your gas tank was full then it would have been alot
    better because the resistance would have been much higher and alot less of the voltage
    would have gotten through. You would probably not want to take a piece of electrical wire
    and connect it to the positive and negative terminals of your battery but that is basically
    what you did with your test. If you do want to take a piece of electrical wire and connect
    it to the positive and negative terminals of your battery then you should probably sell the
    digital cluster before it starts to smoke. It is highly likely that one of the 3 wires A14/A19/A20
    is a 12 volt supply so touching it to C7 is not a good thing. It is also not a good thing to be
    touching the 3 wires A14/A19/A20 to each other.
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    I highly doubt it. The following diagram definetly shows a variable resistor or a tapped
    resistor. It is definetly the symbol for a variable resistor, not 1 that toyota has included
    in their Glossary of Symbols but it is a valid symbol for a variable resistor in the electrical
    world
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  8. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    what do you think is the best step... ?
     
  9. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    15A Gauge Fuse, any of the 12v supplied to anything you plug in through A14/19/20 is run through the 15A fuse, even if you short A14/19/20 to each other, the 12v is still fused, while the ground is the only thing that's directly to the battery.
     
  10. kevind

    kevind Well-Known Member Donated!

    I need a fuel digi dash fuel sender aswell has anybody tried a fuel sender off the supra of the same year?
     
  11. aaron

    aaron Well-Known Member

    That actually does help. Which wires do you short to get the fuel reading?

    That would be correct for the analog dash, but I'm guessing it's something completely different for the digi dash.

    I'm going to take a guess and say that either the digi dash polls the sender every x milliseconds or the sender is constantly pulsing the fuel level to the dash.

    The signals can be converted quite easily using a $4 microcontroller. Are the A14/19/20 pins just for the fuel sender? Do any connect straight to ground or 12v?
     
  12. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    i honestly don't remember. i've put off the digi dash project for a long time now since i was dealing with HG issues with my old car...i preferred the centre placed temp gauge and the oil pressure gauge doesn't hurt.

    i actually got the damn thing to work. it's just figuring out which pin was which.
     
  13. rev_head

    rev_head Well-Known Member Donated!

    just run an anolog guage lol
     
  14. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    ^ your just jealous because ya dont have one! :D

    Arron, maybe but how come theres no chip on the sender, maybe its in the sender and we just need to know what voltages go between the Full and Empty on the tank?
     
  15. aaron

    aaron Well-Known Member

    I was under the impression the big black box sitting on top of the digital sender was housing some sort of conversion circuit?

    EDIT: Just noticed the sender on your tank in your thread has the black box too, unless you have the digi dash?

    The mystery continues!
     
    Last edited: May 30, 2012
  16. lone wolf

    lone wolf Well-Known Member Donated!

    can it be ordered new?
     
  17. Seank90

    Seank90 Well-Known Member Donated!

    Dont think so roy, there not ment to be in europe so toyota wouldnt stock them.... Dunno about the states though...

    aaron, ill check how many wires i have coning from mine today but im pretty sure all that the other one has is a voltage divider circut and a var res that drops the voltage to about 5 volts ....
     
  18. eNtraxGT88

    eNtraxGT88 Well-Known Member Donated!

    how would someone go about opening up that black plastic thing above the sender? everyone's got the same looking bit on all senders
     
  19. jwagner162

    jwagner162 Well-Known Member Donated!

    cut around the edge of it with a razor knife, then pop it off.
     
  20. I've got one here. $250 NZD (€159) + shipping and comes with a free RHD digital dash complete with plugs ;)
     

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