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Boosting a 3s-fe

Discussion in 'Forced Induction' started by Jay-Dee, Jan 9, 2007.

  1. Jay-Dee

    Jay-Dee Well-Known Member

    Hey guys,

    so ive been searching around and found out that most people say turbo'ing a 3s-fe is a waste of time etc...

    But if i got a full recon motor and box and strapped on something like this:

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    and only ran stock boost, do u think it would work???

    Cheers.
     
  2. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    not to be rude but no...
    list of bad things in that pic:
    3SFE
    computer controlled ignition timing
    no knock
    el-crapo internals
    no intercooler (very very very bad)
    little baby AFM
    and even at 6psi you are putting out...155hp at best and that's all you'll ever get on that motor, oh and BTW that crank HP not wheel...which will be around 110-120hp
    dropping in a 3sge gets better gains than that and it's a crap ton cheaper and will last for half a million miles with no problems.
     
  3. Jay-Dee

    Jay-Dee Well-Known Member

    Alrighty thanks for that mate, just waying up my options at the moment, guess i will just go the 3s-ge way.

    Cheers.
     
  4. misk

    misk Guest

    old thread i know
    and pretty straight forward answer already lol
    but how much boost/power would the 3sfe handle?
    would be fitted with a decomp plate to lower comp and also an intercooler
    in australia 3sge arent quite as common or as cheap as 3sfe, so putting a turbo onto a 3sfe will cost less than a conversion in most cases
     
  5. ssscorpin110

    ssscorpin110 Guest

    first off for the most part how much boost any engine can hold depends on how much money you spend on it (and its not always money well spent). turbo will def NOT cost less, spend a little more initially for a 3sge.
     
  6. misk

    misk Guest

    i wasnt talking about rebuilding the engine though - just slapping a turbo onto a completly stock 3sfe with a decomp plate
    i can get manifold and turbo for $200, head gasket would be $100, i can do all the work myself...
    pipe work which i can do myself maybe $100
    i cant see it costing me more than $600
    and i havent seen any 3sge for sale over here for less than $500, thats with no loom or ecu...

    im not a total noob, i have a built turbo engine in my other car (a holden, australian car :p), but just curious about the strength of the stock 3sfe
     
  7. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    off topic, which holden did you turbo? VL? what engine was it running?
     
  8. misk

    misk Guest

    a VH SLE, atm has a built turbo 202 backed with a 2spd powerglide and VLT dif, but im building an RB30 to go in.
    its stripped atm getting resprayed. the 202 made 180rwkw on 8psi before it was stripped, hoping for much more on 20psi when its all resprayed :p
    the RB30 will be built to handle 30psi
    so i have to try and be nice to my dailys, but i cant resist lol
    if it seems like its gonna be too much effort for the 3fge to be turboed im sure ill live
    but id still like to check it out

    the VH :)
    [​IMG]
     
  9. mephtar

    mephtar Well-Known Member

    not worth it IMO, maybe 4psi or something before it shits itself, u gotta, with the 4psi you would also need to get the fuel mixture correct or it will lean out. Id save the money to pay for gas with the holden:p
     
  10. misk

    misk Guest

    yeah its looking that way
    cheers guys :)
    and your on the money with the 'gas' haha
    the holden runs straight LPG ;)
    [​IMG]

    sorry to go so far off topic! lol
    the 3sfe will stay n/a :)
     
  11. alman162

    alman162 Well-Known Member

    hahaha damn that a nice looking commo!

    turbo'd 202... cant say i've ever seen that...! looks interesting haha

    keep me posted on the rb30 going in, love to see the progress of that! gonna be built strong to be handling 30psi!!!


    edit: yeah sorry to drift so far off topic!!!

    good to hear the 3sfe is staying n/a.... trust me, its just no where near worth the money, and even if you had the money, its not worth the performance increases and it will withstand shit all amount of boost.... without dying on you... save your $$$$
     
  12. misk

    misk Guest

    ill put up a thread in the 'other' rides section when i get home :p
    its a pretty interesting build.
    the RB30 only needs forged rods and pistons with head studs to cope with 30psi, strong lil buggers!
    obviously a bit more to it than that, but nothing too major
     
  13. Ant1

    Ant1 Well-Known Member

    Or a step better, 3S-GTE. Didn't you have one before?
     
  14. Celic_GT2

    Celic_GT2 Well-Known Member Moderator Donated!

    yeah i agree with mafix, the fe is like the grocery getting master...not to sound rude, but if you put anymore then like 5-6 psi of boost in an fe you would melt the pistons, its just not ment to take it, and the stock ecu cant compensate for the boost so if it doesnt melt it will run like shit, imo go for a gte, its ment to handle boost and stock internals are ment to as well.
     
  15. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    why does this topic keep coming back? lol!
     

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