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Aftermarket Crank angle sensor

Discussion in 'Aftermarket Modifications' started by The3sgtestarlet, Feb 16, 2012.

  1. The3sgtestarlet

    The3sgtestarlet Well-Known Member

    I would like to know if any performance distributor has a aftermarket external CAS conversion for the celica ST185 engine.

    Involving a Crank pully tooth plate and CAS. That way you dont have to rely on a pos standard 20yo dizzy which are expensive when 2nd hand.

    Also one other thing, i found this picture of a CAS fitted to suzuki engine cam gear, but i cant see how it works cos there is no tooth plate etc >

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  2. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    racerx at mr2oc.com makes a beautiful setup.
     
  3. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Wouldn't it be easier to adapt a crank sensor from a late 5S or 3S motor?
    You can buy the oil pump etc cheap which is made for crank sensing

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    I have seen it done a few times
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  4. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    those are external crank sensors. which hang very low. they mount to the harmonic balancer.
     
  5. Klue

    Klue Well-Known Member Donated!

    cam sensor has more resolution, the trigger is the bolt as you see one is different from the rest.
     
  6. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    I doubt that, the crank sensor mounts to the oil pump and the mark/s are on the crank pulley which is the same diameter or bigger than the cam pulley.
    Also
    1)the cam pulley turns at 1/2 the speed of the crank
    2)the cam pulley is affected by cambelt tension and elasticity
    3)the cam can't be degreed without moving the pickup as well
    4)recently we had a case of "stray misfiring" due to the pickup sometimes reading the other bolts as well - took weeks to find the fault
     
  7. Klue

    Klue Well-Known Member Donated!

    1)slower speed = easier to sample
    2) the entire engine rotational mass suffers "tension, and elasticity" : harmonics ; further more you can argue that the tensioner acts as a further dampener to reduce the cam disturbances
    3) not an issue with an EMS as you can resync the sensor, after the cam is degreed it does not need to be changed
    4) due to improper design, this is not a design I would use.

    Caldina st215 has the cam sensor pickup and is highly accurate.
    slower turning can achieve higher sampling rate

    Wouldn't use this set up on a street car, but im just saying
     

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