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lug nuts: kind of important to have

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by 86GTMonkey, Dec 13, 2007.

  1. 86GTMonkey

    86GTMonkey Well-Known Member

    I rotated the tires on my girlfriends car (93 Corolla) yesterday, and when I got the right rear wheel cover off, I noticed the wheel was held on with only 3 lug nuts. The 4th had been sheared completely off, bolt and everything, by what I can only assume to be a jackass with an air wrench. I finished rotating the tires, made sure that wheel was especially tight, and it's fine, drives ok, no vibrations or shaking, but I don't like the fact that she's driving around with one wheel held on only 3/4 of the way. So here's my question: do I need to replace the whole damn wheel hub, or can I just get a new stud for the lug nut?
     
  2. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    nope. remove the wheel, remove the brake drum, smack the broken lug with a hammer to knock it out of the hub, take it to parts store to make sure you get the right one. while there make sure to get 2 lug nuts. typically you'll destroy 1 in the process of installing the new lug. insert new lug into the hub, take 1 lugnut (and a really big washer if you can find one) and continue to tighten till the base is all the way through the hub. discard lugnut. install drum, install wheel, tighten all 4 nuts.
     
  3. wickyman

    wickyman Guest

    Yup, just the way Mafix said it. I had to replace like 5 of the studs on a sentra a couple summers ago, what a pita! :)
     
  4. 86GTMonkey

    86GTMonkey Well-Known Member

    Alright cool, I can knock that out before the sun goes down after school. Maybe. How difficult is it to remove the brake drum? Does that also mean I have to bleed the brakes and all that good shit? This may have to wait till saturday.
     
  5. wickyman

    wickyman Guest

    I don't think you have to drain them, but to remove the drum, it should just have a single nut in the center, with a cotter pin, or a couple screws holding it to the hub. Depends on what year it is, I would think?
     
  6. 86GTMonkey

    86GTMonkey Well-Known Member

    I'll figure it out. It's rainy and miserable here today anyway.
     
  7. Youds

    Youds Well-Known Member

    ya u shouldnt have to bleed anything unless u take the line from the wheel cylinder which u shouldnt have to do just leave it connected and make sure it doesnt hang by it
     
  8. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    all you have to do is hit the drum with a hammer to knock it loose then pull it off.
     
  9. Letze

    Letze Well-Known Member

    How about disk breaks I have to do the same on my car... Unrelated to Impact Wrench
     
  10. underscore

    underscore Well-Known Member

    you only need 1 nut ;)

    and disks i think you just remove the rotor, bang it out, use the method to sink it in, and put it all back together.
     
  11. schmooot

    schmooot Well-Known Member

    well he said he had 4 lugs so the rear is a drum setup. In that case pop the center cap and remove the large nut and cotter pin and the drum should pop right off.....minuswhale repack the bearing while you are in there too.

    To put the nut back on spin the wheel freely with your hand while tightening it with your other hand until the wheel stops spinning. Then back off a little bit and put a new cotter pin in
     
  12. JoeJack88

    JoeJack88 Well-Known Member Super Moderator Donated!

    what, you dont have to pull out any large nut to remove the drum in the rear..
    just like mafix said, unbolt the wheel, hit the drum and pull the drum off.
    hammer out the lug.
    insert in new lug.
    tighten.
    put on drum,
    put on wheel.
    tighten all lugs especially the one you changed.

    Ive done this several occasions on the front and rear.
     
  13. JoeJack88

    JoeJack88 Well-Known Member Super Moderator Donated!

    remove wheel,
    remove caliper and caliper mounting bracket.
    take rotor off.
    hammer out old lugs
    insert in new lugs,
    replace everything you removed.
    put back on wheel and tighten.
     
  14. JoeJack88

    JoeJack88 Well-Known Member Super Moderator Donated!

    nope never on any 4th gen.
    no nut or screws.
    these pics might help :D
    http://www.st162.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=811
     
  15. Murgatroy

    Murgatroy Member

    I had a woman do this on my Camaro once. I can almost promise it involved a curb, not a monkey with an impact wrench. Smacking a curb will shear a stud faster than anything I can think of.

    As for replacing it, as has been said, just remove the drum (nothing holding it on once the wheel is off) and smack the old stud out. Put the new stud in and press it all the way in, using the lugnut method described.

    It is the same process for disc brakes, but you have to remove the caliper, bracket and rotor.
     
  16. Letze

    Letze Well-Known Member

    Its relatively easy... All of 4 bolts to remove to get at the stud...

    And word of warning if you're doing this on an alltrac you're gonna want 4 jack stands or some guts to do this the studs re surrounded by this crappy metal collar thats a major PITA to get off so its easier to lift the car up and just rotate the wheel.

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    and on that note, unless you have no other option... dont barrow jack stands from your neighbor who does lifted trucks... LOL

    even on the lowest notch thats about 2 feet off the ground!
     
  17. schmooot

    schmooot Well-Known Member

    whoops. what the hell keeps the drum (and subsequently the wheel) on the assembly then? are the lugs not fit into the drum? I'm just going from every drum brake I've seen
     
  18. Murgatroy

    Murgatroy Member

    The studs are fitted to the hub, the drum fits over the studs and brakes, just as the wheel does. The lugnuts are what keep the wheel and the drum in place.
     
  19. 86GTMonkey

    86GTMonkey Well-Known Member

    Ok, still haven't gotten to the lug yet. I have another question, didn't feel like cluttering up the place with another thread.

    What is the width of stock 86 GT-S wheels? The tires on them now are 215/60R14's, which by my reckoning makes them nearly 8.5 inches wide. I believe stock tire size is 205/60R14, which is still about 8 inches. Are the wheels really that wide? Tire/wheel sizes have always puzzled me.
     
  20. Letze

    Letze Well-Known Member

    should be 7 inch... (the at wheels are...)

    I'm running 215's on my scion wheels and they are 7 inch
     

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