Other Celica owners! a Rant.

I know what you're saying and in many ways it's a pretty sad state of affairs. I think there is definitely a gap in the market for a UK classic Toyota's club - at the moment it's quite a fractured scene as the Celica/MR2/Supra guys all do their own thing and a lot of knowledge doesn't get transferred.

As for celica-club, I have to admit I object to paying money just to post about my car, as much as I'd like to join in and raise the profile of gen4's Unfortunately it's unlikely I'll get much back (though there's always plenty more to learn).

Did you see the very clean convertible that ended on ebay this evening? Lovely car yet fetched less than £600.

 

dont let it get to you buddy, its hard to change what people think is cool. at one point the 1980s camaro w/ a 350 brick was the coolest thing, but then the next gen came along and suddenly it was obsolete. the 4g is veiwed as a mid 80's pile. if you were to ask me, its the last celica that had any sign of balls. i am open to see what people can do to other newer gens. but to say ours are useless (well mine is) is just wrong. any retard can slap a turbo and big rims on his car and think he/she is hot shit. but it takes a true enthusiast to tune, create, and appreciate a certain type of car (in this case the 4g) if you ask me just sit back and watch. there cars will break down, will just be considered nothing and yours will still be going strong, kicking ass all the way.

 

LOL - I have to chuckle when I see them raving over a riced VW, Astra, Scooby, BMW etc
And I do notice the looks my cars get, jealous much?

We're all in the same boat! There are heaps of 16x's here, but getting them to share ideas, cars etc is like drawing blood?

I agree with Mafix's views, we are in a unique position and in a few years time these cars will
get the recognition they deserve. 16x owners are definitely a different breed.

This place is overrun with 182's, 202's, gen7's. The gen 4 is now becoming such a rarity that people are asking what it is.
When you say "Toyota", you get a look of total disbelief, shock even

Drifting is the "buzz word" here - a scrappy rwd Corolla KE, AE or Celica g1-3 will sell for $4000+ whereas a gen4 will need to be pretty immaculate to fetch $1000 (most are fukd and hence the $1 sales)

I love helping guys here, but no more -
a) They can't afford the parts (but there's money for riced rims, steering, gauges, Xhorst etc?)
b) Everything's stripped, bent or plain "fukd"
c) "Maintenance" is a foreign word (Latin?)
d) You must do it for them for free, & don't show the interest or inclination to do it for themselves
e) It's fukd again within a month
f) You see them on TV doing burnouts, skipping lights, throwing bottles at cops, or DEAD
The next time you see it is at the scrapyard!

I note there are hundreds of members here who have not posted in the last 6 months,
makes you wonder?

I was looking for another mirror for R/Rocket a few months back and walked into one of the
"Toyota dedicated scrapyards" (Rosebank Rd offramp, Auckland West).
I asked the owner if he had any 16x's and the response was-
"I don't keep shit, I have staff to pay!"

I couldn't help laughing at the guy - he was standing in front of a 4dr KE20 he had lavished
much money and attention on, and on his left was an almost complete gen3. (never even seen one running?)
Once again there were 182's, gen7's and 202's all over the place -
Scratch one hard-core customer with O/S connections fukhead!

 

yer that really sucks

at 1st i thought ozcelica was bad for 4th gens but show them a nice condition one and people really give praise (well the more promonent people on there). Its probably coz 4th gens are very common here, but to find a good condition one is rare and for that they can appreciate the effort required to maintain such an old car at a great level. Probably also the fact that here 205's are still fairly rare and most of the 185's usually arent on the road, mainly coz alot of them try and boost them to high with everything else stock haha.
The 16x truely is a car of passion. Its interesting as much as i love my car i can face the facts its, old, paints crap lots of things dont work etc. yet lots of my friends absolutely love it (especially the girls ).

in closing least you have us! :mrgreen:

 

haha that a boy!

 

To my knowledge the ST165 was the first "real" GT4 along with the Integrale

I'd be petty miffed every time my newer car got beat by grandad

 

I feel for ya man, thats why i made this:

 

haha the day i went to get my new tires i had two older gentlemen obviously staring :shock: at my car from stopped traffic in the other lane. and they were driving a brand new s2000 you know we may not get respect, but loving our cars is what a true enthusiast does. its not about hp outputs or always having the latest and greatest in aftermarket. no its about finding something you are passionate about and making it preform better than it did when it rolled off the showroom floor. personally our st162/165's have more soul than the newer celicas. they were the last of the performance oriented celica models (alltrac/gt4 excluded ). so much technological innovation that you dont see on any other car for the bargains you can get. do i need heated mirrors or power seats...? no. but is it cooler than shit that not even beemers of the day had when we have, hell yea. st 162 love forever for sure!

 

Hey Rich you know that im new to the scene compared to the rest of the guys on here but we still pop up from time to time with a previously lost gen4 that we love so dont lose faith in the uk scene too much.i know where youre coming from re the CCUK site but im gonna keep my posts going on there:if i hadnt spoken to you on there i maybe wouldnt have found the true home of the gen4! People who know cars know the true history of this gen so lets hope more come in from the dark.....i was PMd by a guy on CCUK with a gen4 myself,maybe i should take your lead and give him this site info and do my bit as you have. Im not a flash in the pan newbie whos gonna give up when things fuck up and im sure theres more out there in the UK,the tough bit is finding them.......and bringing them here.what youve shown that can be done to your car in the UK is fantastic,cheers for the inspiration fella.Lets get some more.A full blown UK meet with a shitload of gen4s from standard to Trin style would be sweeet but i agree we need the numbers somehow.bring em on :twisted:

 

*cue rodney dangerfield yelling*

Seriously, the 4th gen rarely gets the respect it so richly deserves. Going to a school for gearheads, there's no shortage of both well done and riced jap cars, but the only other 4g looks like a rednecks beater car that he drives just for gas savings (it is totally hosed, I doubt it's even useful as a parts car anymore). There are several 5g and 7g owners (and 1 6g), and not a single one has ever given my 4g even a cursory glance, and look at me like I have AIDS when I park near them.

However, several of my friends seem quite taken with it, one has even threatened to steal it from me, so there is hope, comrades!