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Just curious

Discussion in 'Aftermarket Modifications' started by weapon5, May 25, 2009.

  1. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member

    Have anyone here ever attemped to swap a black top 3sge beams into their car? not the grey top the black one btw. I am just curious.
     
  2. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    can't be that hard. just wiring.
     
  3. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    I've seen plenty red tops but never a black.
    Doesn't look like the intake will fit and the VVT cover will touch the shock tower? Also the T/B is on the wrong side - maybe with another manifold? Mountings are different too.

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  4. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member

    yes i am very aware of the engine not being transverse. so you don't think it will have enough clearences?
     
  5. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    No, and you will need other mountings and an intake, not to mention moving the dipstick etc

    You could do it if you had your own engineering shop & I'd like to see it done.

    - ???? I knew that already
     
  6. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    oh 3sge, i was thinking a black top 4age. no the 3sge black top will not fit. ever.
     
  7. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member


    Share your wisdom :D
     
  8. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, I know you know, I was just stating that I knew that as well. :D
     
  9. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    which wisdom would you like the 3s or the 4a?
     
  10. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    On this topic

    Met a guy putting a 3S-GE G3 into an 80's FWD Corolla hatch, motor's in but the driveshafts are too long and he wants to have others made.

    Is there an easier fix?
    Thanx
     
  11. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    not to my knowledge
    which corolla is it?
     
  12. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member

    I wanted your wisdom on why the 3sge beams black top wouldnt fit?
     
  13. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    The first FWD Corolla.

    ps. he's fitted st202 hubs, shocks & brakes as well
     
  14. XR Pilot

    XR Pilot Well-Known Member

    I've seen a 3SGTE fitted into an AE82 (first FWD Corolla) but I'm not sure what bits were used. If I see it again in my forum travels I will let you know.
     
  15. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    the 3s black top was never designed to be used in a FWD configuration. besides a 205 swap is cheaper than that motor by itself.
     
  16. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member

    okay you know how a 1zz vvti use bolts to get the vvti and the 2zz have the bolts and lift is of course in the intake mani. since beams is also dual vvti black top does that mean is vvtli and if so can you just swap parts onto a st205 to get the dual vvti plus the turbo system :D
     
  17. Mafix

    Mafix Owner Staff Member Administrator Donated!

    no you can't swap it. that i know.
     
  18. Stig

    Stig ST162 Guru Donated!

    Just buy a red top or grey top?
     
  19. weapon5

    weapon5 Well-Known Member

    red top and grey top is easeir than a black but cost as much as a st215 3sgte so if you going to go big i rather go with that but for that vvti i rather go black top. beside you got to respect the black top and the 2zz they was a head of their time to bad toyota stop productions of such engine and replace them with these hybrid battary/gas power shit.
     

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