Swaybar Group Buy

id prefer not to pay anywhere close to that right now...but I can also hold off for now until theres more people on the list...

 

no I understood perfectly.....and I know about any group buy about interest...u always have only a few.....i still want them and by almeans I know that was retail...price wise....im not gonna rush out and buy these if I can get them for the same price..... and I think I counted 3 maybe four with mafix but I thought he already had these.

by almeans those I want to get these but their not at the top of the list but if I get a hood deal then its worth it for me to spend the cash and have them sit for a bit....im still in tho....but I dont mind waiting is what I meant due to im in no rush to get this yet.

no offense.

 

i measured my bar the last day out of interest and i got 27mm?

and these are 22mm? am i missing something?

 

i got 25mm on my stocker. sounds like stock is hollow vs. whiteline solid. have a set comming to me will be a bit before i get both. if you tap the stocker it does sound hollow to me.

 

id say its hollow..... but what difference would it make hollow or not?

 

it's not hollow. read a couple pages back. the front bar is 24mm, basically changing the front to 22mm and changing the back to bigger will reduce understeer.

 

-ridgidity.... tell ya what ill swap the front bar first and drive it around a bit.

 

What it actually says is that stiffening the rear will cause it to lose more and more traction which makes it tail happy.
We find that most often race cars need softening in the rear to improve handling, many times throwing the rear bar away to get a good dry/wet balance

Jon is right - fit one bar at a time and test the difference. At least then you have an idea what is wrong if the handling goes wonky

Take it to a track and do some laps with each setup to find the best handling, your ass isn't a very good g-meter

 

Let's see what Jon thinks, he has the experience to judge what his handling is doing.
I'm worried people make changes to their cars and end up hurting themselves, remember that most don't have new suspension and stiffer bars will only mask already bad handling.
Stiffer springs and shocks will also usually do a better job than stiffer bars.

Stiff bars may be great in the dry but in the wet they are a menace

 

thanks stig. yeah expect a full write up/review. just got those new wheels, so i should be able to do it on a proper set of rubber. also going to need an alignment after the rack mod, so ill test them with the stock settings, then tweak the adjustments from there. i dont really drive it enough to worry about tire life so ill probably run the settings out to what 09 was at.

-remeber the way 09 was setup virtually eliminated understeer, and she'd 3 wheel corners all day on all stock stuff. hopefully i dont rake the dogs lip off.

 

hmmmm...

 

My last Racecar was an '84 Nissan Pulsar, car never handled properly until we ditched the front swaybar. In other words if your running a fairly serious suspension set-up, then going to a larger rear bar is the way to go! Oh and by the way, that car had custom Koni inserted coil-overs with 375 ft/lb 2 1/2"x8" springs and no bar, rear was Carrera inverted shocks, set full-stiff with 295 ft/lb 2 1/2"x8" springs and a 7/8" Addco rear bar with adjustable end-links. Car weighed in at 1980lbs with driver and handled like a go-cart, was best driving car I ever raced, just hoping the Celica will be that good when finished. By the way an LSD in a FWD car can cause added understeer, so ditching the front bar helps to counter-act this trait.

racerb :thumbsup: